From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Grygorii Strashko <grygorii.strashko@ti.com>,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>,
Sekhar Nori <nsekhar@ti.com>,
linux-clk@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Common clock framework API vs RT patchset
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 16:36:41 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150804153641.GR7557@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55C0D8F3.3030105@ti.com>
On Tue, Aug 04, 2015 at 10:23:31AM -0500, Nishanth Menon wrote:
> Consider clk_enable/disable/set_parent/setfreq operations. none of these
> operations are "atomic" from hardware point of view. instead, they are a
> set of steps which culminates to moving from state A to state B of the
> clock tree configuration.
There's a world of difference between clk_enable()/clk_disable() and
the rest of the clk API.
clk_enable()/clk_disable() _should_ be callable from any context, since
you may need to enable or disable a clock from any context. The remainder
of the clk API is callable only from contexts where sleeping is permissible.
The reason we have this split is because clk_enable()/clk_disable() have
historically been used in interrupt handlers, and they're specifically
not supposed to impose big delays.
Things like waiting for a PLL to re-lock is time-consuming, so it's not
something I'd expect to see behind a clk_enable() implementation (the
fact you can't sleep in there is a big hint.) Such waits should be in
the clk_prepare() stage instead.
Now, as for clk_enable() being interrupted - if clk_enable() is interrupted
and another clk_enable() comes along for the same clock, that second
clk_enable() should not return until the clock has actually been enabled,
and it's up to the implementation to decode how to achieve that. If that
means a RT implementation using a raw spinlock, then that's one option
(which basically would have the side effect of blocking until the preempted
clk_enable() finishes its business.) Alternatively, if we can preempt
inside clk_enable(), then the clk_enable() implementation should be written
to cope with that (eg, by the second clk_enable() fiddling with the hardware,
and the first thread noticing that it has nothing to do.)
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-08-04 15:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-08-04 12:00 Common clock framework API vs RT patchset Grygorii Strashko
2015-08-04 12:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-08-04 15:23 ` Nishanth Menon
2015-08-04 15:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2015-08-11 19:23 ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-08-11 19:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-11 22:06 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-12 10:05 ` Grygorii Strashko
2015-08-12 10:11 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-08-12 15:02 ` Felipe Balbi
2015-08-12 16:46 ` Michael Turquette
2015-08-12 19:08 ` Felipe Balbi
2015-09-21 13:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-09-21 13:52 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2015-09-21 16:08 ` Common clock framework API vs RT patchset\ Thomas Gleixner
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