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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	Julia Cartwright <julia@ni.com>,
	Luiz Capitulino <lcapitulino@redhat.com>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rcu: update: make RCU_EXPEDITE_BOOT default
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 09:59:31 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161103165931.GJ3716@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161103163326.jkjbncoz7a5oriy5@linutronix.de>

On Thu, Nov 03, 2016 at 05:33:27PM +0100, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2016-11-03 09:22:28 [-0700], Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 02, 2016 at 05:30:02PM +0100, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > RCU_EXPEDITE_BOOT should speed up the boot process by enforcing
> > > synchronize_rcu_expedited() instead of synchronize_rcu() during the boot
> > > process. There should be no reason why one does not want this and there
> > > is no need worry about real time latency at this point.
> > > Therefore make it default.
> > > 
> > > Signed-off-by: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
> > 
> > Well, it has been awhile since I removed a Kconfig parameter.
> > 
> > So why could this be a bad thing?
> > 
> > 1.	Very large systems might see scalability issues with unconditional
> > 	expediting at boot.  But if we don't try it, we won't know.
> 
> You mean we would make the boot process slower for them instead of
> faster?

For really bit systems, quite possibly, where "really big" means
many hundreds or (more likely) thousands of CPUs.

But there are things that I can do to fix this when and if.

> > 2.	People bringing up new hardware might not want quite so many
> > 	IPIs.  But they can just set rcu_normal to prevent that.
> 
> I wanted to make things simple and not complicated…

I know that feeling.  ;-)

> > I am therefore queuing it for testiong and review.  ;-)
> 
> Okay thanks.

							Thanx, Paul

> Sebastian
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2016-11-03 16:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-12 15:12 Making rcu_normal=1 in RT Luiz Capitulino
2016-10-12 16:21 ` Julia Cartwright
2016-10-12 16:39   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-10-12 16:49   ` Luiz Capitulino
2016-10-12 17:15     ` Julia Cartwright
2016-10-12 20:32       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-10-13 16:25         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-14  9:20           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-10-16  1:45             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-10-16 11:28               ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-10-31 17:38                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-10-31 18:15                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-10-31 22:37                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-01  2:19                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-01  2:36                         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-01  2:52                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-01  3:31                             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-11-02 16:05                               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-11-03 16:26                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-02 16:30                     ` [PATCH] rcu: update: make RCU_EXPEDITE_BOOT default Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-11-03 16:22                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-03 16:33                         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-11-03 16:59                           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-11-07 17:19                             ` Steven Rostedt
2016-11-07 17:30                               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-11-07 17:35                                 ` Josh Triplett
2016-11-07 18:05                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-07 18:08                                     ` Josh Triplett
2016-11-07 19:04                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-11-02 16:51   ` Making rcu_normal=1 in RT Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2016-11-02 17:41     ` Luiz Capitulino

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