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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Chris Friesen <chris.friesen@windriver.com>
Cc: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <daniel@bristot.me>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: question about rcuc/X tasks
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2016 15:34:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161215233430.GF3924@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <585317DF.7080502@windriver.com>

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 04:23:27PM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote:
> On 12/15/2016 01:04 PM, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 09:20:24AM -0600, Chris Friesen wrote:
> 
> >>On a related note, I found an old email from Paul suggesting that
> >>the various rcuc/X threads could be affined to the management CPUs
> >>to free up the "realtime" cores, but when I try that it doesn't let
> >>me change affinity.  Was that disallowed for technical reasons?
> >>(It's also possible it's something local, in which case I need to go
> >>digging.)
> >
> >The rcuo/X kthreads can be affined, but the rcuc/X kthreads must run on
> >the corresponding CPU for correctness reasons -- they communicate with
> >RCU core using protocols that are only single-CPU-safe.  But if you are
> >running NO_HZ_FULL, these kthreads should never run unless your user
> >threads are doing syscalls.
> >
> >So, are they actually running in your setup?
> 
> Yes, but I wasn't setting nohz_full.  With "rcu_nocb_poll
> isolcpus=1-15 rcu_nocbs=1-15 nohz_full=1-15" I'm not seeing the
> rcuc/X kthreads running.
> 
> So in the non-nohz_full case, what are they waking up to do?
> Something timer-related?

Interesting.  I need to look into this a bit.  I would not expect
that rcuc/X kthreads corresponding to NOCB CPUs to ever wake up.
(They are created by a per-CPU facility that creates a kthread per
CPU no matter what.)

							Thanx, Paul


  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-15 23:34 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-12 22:42 question about rcuc/X tasks Chris Friesen
2016-12-15 13:47 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2016-12-15 14:07   ` Steven Rostedt
2016-12-15 15:20     ` Chris Friesen
2016-12-15 19:04       ` Paul E. McKenney
2016-12-15 22:23         ` Chris Friesen
2016-12-15 23:34           ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2016-12-16  2:43             ` Chris Friesen
2016-12-15 19:01     ` Paul E. McKenney

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