From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Alexei Starovoitov Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] [ANNOUNCE] Dynamically created function based events Date: Sat, 3 Feb 2018 13:38:21 -0800 Message-ID: <20180203213820.qhsfubqpgndcbfqh@ast-mbp> References: <20180202230458.840252014@goodmis.org> <261141691.15507.1517677454208.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com> <20180203140217.2382df69@gandalf.local.home> <20180203205207.mpob4w6eyehhg2ky@ast-mbp> <20180203161732.4a65c66b@gandalf.local.home> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers , linux-kernel , Linus Torvalds , Ingo Molnar , Andrew Morton , Thomas Gleixner , Peter Zijlstra , Masami Hiramatsu , Tom Zanussi , linux-rt-users , linux-trace-users , acme , Clark Williams , Jiri Olsa , bristot , Juri Lelli , Jonathan Corbet , Namhyung Kim To: Steven Rostedt Return-path: Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180203161732.4a65c66b@gandalf.local.home> Sender: linux-trace-users-owner@vger.kernel.org List-Id: linux-rt-users.vger.kernel.org On Sat, Feb 03, 2018 at 04:17:32PM -0500, Steven Rostedt wrote: > On Sat, 3 Feb 2018 12:52:08 -0800 > Alexei Starovoitov wrote: > > > It's a user space job. > > BTW, I asked around at DevConf.cz, and nobody I talked with (besides > Arnaldo), have used eBPF. The "path to hello world" is quite high. This > interface is extremely simple to use, and one doesn't need to install > LLVM or other tools to interface with it. > > I used the analogy, that eBPF is like C, and this is like Bash. One is > much easier to get "Hello World!" out than the other. > > So personally, this is something I know I would use (note, I have > never used eBPF either). But if I'm the only one to use this > interface then I'll stop here (and not bother with the function graph > return interface). If others think this would be helpful, I would ask > them to speak up now. I'm not arguing against the patches. I know that there are folks out there who like to use cat/echo interfaces. I'm only happy that the whole thing has its own kconfig that we can keep off in fb kernels to reduce maintenance/support burden. Just like we do for all sorts of other kernel features.