From: Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>,
rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>,
Tom Zanussi <tom.zanussi@linux.intel.com>,
linux-rt-users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-trace-users <linux-trace-users@vger.kernel.org>,
acme <acme@kernel.org>, Clark Williams <williams@redhat.com>,
Jiri Olsa <jolsa@redhat.com>, bristot <bristot@redhat.com>,
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>,
Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@kernel.org>,
Alexei Starovoitov <alexei.starovoitov@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 00/18] [ANNOUNCE] Dynamically created function based events
Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2018 00:14:28 +0900 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180206001428.baf7f16d4a836a17488d7248@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFwtCP3Nf86jwNFzdRy_m0GZWH5U2KBDutPDh1ZVATHLYg@mail.gmail.com>
(Note that I also agree with Linus's opinion that this is
like a debugger, since I already did it in perf-probe :))
On Sun, 4 Feb 2018 11:39:39 -0800
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:
> (Obviously it's not entirely black-and-white, but I do think there is
> a pretty big difference between the two groups. And the first group
> will obviously use the explicit trace points _too_, generally to
> narrow down where they want to go with the function-based one).
>
> We'll see. Maybe I'm entirely wrong. But I'm hoping that the
> function-based one will end up being helpful.
BTW, if the function-based tracing is helpful for both of them,
they can start using it back in 2010 because kprobe-based tracer
already supported it.
It was less announced, I must admit that I was lazy at that point.
Also, since I moved usability effort on perf-probe, kprobe-based
event syntax is not so funcy.
"SyS_openat(int dfd, string path, x32 flags, x16 mode)"
is equal to
"p SyS_openat dfd=%di:x64 path=%si:string flags=%dx:x32 mode=%cx:x16"
in kprobe probe definition syntax, but with perf-probe and CONFIG_DEBUG_INFO,
perf probe -a 'sys_openat $params'
will setup the event correctly.
So, we need to clarify what will attract more "2nd group" people to
function based events. E.g. the events for EXPORT_SYMBOL_GPL() symbols
already defined and easily on/off.
Thank you,
--
Masami Hiramatsu <mhiramat@kernel.org>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-02-05 15:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-02 23:04 [PATCH 00/18] [ANNOUNCE] Dynamically created function based events Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:04 ` [PATCH 01/18] tracing: Add " Steven Rostedt
2018-02-05 8:24 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-02-05 15:00 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-07 3:09 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-07 12:06 ` Jiri Olsa
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 02/18] tracing: Add documentation for " Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 03/18] tracing: Add simple arguments to " Steven Rostedt
2018-02-08 10:18 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-08 15:37 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 04/18] tracing/x86: Add arch_get_func_args() function Steven Rostedt
2018-02-05 16:33 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-02-05 17:06 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-08 5:28 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-08 15:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 05/18] tracing: Add hex print for dynamic ftrace based events Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 06/18] tracing: Add indirect offset to args of " Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 07/18] tracing: Add dereferencing multiple fields per arg Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 08/18] tracing: Add "unsigned" to function based events Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 09/18] tracing: Add indexing of arguments for " Steven Rostedt
2018-02-08 10:59 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-08 15:43 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-08 23:56 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-09 0:19 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 10/18] tracing: Make func_type enums for easier comparing of arg types Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 11/18] tracing: Add symbol type to function based events Steven Rostedt
2018-02-08 11:03 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-08 15:48 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 12/18] tracing: Add accessing direct address from " Steven Rostedt
2018-02-09 0:34 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-09 1:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-09 22:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-12 2:06 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-12 15:47 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-02-12 16:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 13/18] tracing: Add array type to " Steven Rostedt
2018-02-03 13:56 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-02-03 15:29 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-04 3:50 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-02-09 1:17 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-09 1:54 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 14/18] tracing: Have char arrays be strings for " Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 15/18] tracing: Add string type for dynamic strings in " Steven Rostedt
2018-02-09 3:15 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-09 3:31 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 16/18] tracing: Add NULL to skip args for " Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 17/18] tracing: Add indirect to indirect access " Steven Rostedt
2018-02-09 5:13 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-09 15:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-09 17:18 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-12 2:15 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-12 17:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-13 9:27 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-13 15:28 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-02 23:05 ` [PATCH 18/18] tracing/perf: Allow perf to use " Steven Rostedt
2018-02-03 13:38 ` [PATCH 00/18] [ANNOUNCE] Dynamically created " Masami Hiramatsu
2018-02-03 15:27 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-04 3:57 ` Masami Hiramatsu
2018-02-03 17:04 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-02-03 19:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-03 20:52 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-02-03 21:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-03 21:30 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-02-04 2:37 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-04 15:50 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-02-03 21:17 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-03 21:38 ` Alexei Starovoitov
2018-02-04 2:25 ` Namhyung Kim
2018-02-05 15:02 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-05 13:53 ` Juri Lelli
2018-02-05 15:07 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-03 21:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-04 15:30 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2018-02-04 15:47 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-04 19:39 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-05 10:09 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-05 15:10 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-05 15:14 ` Masami Hiramatsu [this message]
2018-02-03 18:52 ` Steven Rostedt
2018-02-05 10:23 ` Juri Lelli
2018-02-05 10:49 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2018-02-05 15:11 ` Steven Rostedt
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