From: luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Tim Blechmann <tim@klingt.org>,
Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <daniel@bristot.me>,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
Tommaso Cucinotta <tommaso.cucinotta@santannapisa.it>
Subject: Re: SCHED_DEADLINE as user
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:58:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180823145817.53361e32@luca64> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180823123739.GC31443@localhost.localdomain>
On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 14:37:39 +0200
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 23/08/18 12:43, luca abeni wrote:
> > On Thu, 23 Aug 2018 12:23:50 +0200
> > Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > > But then what is a sane inheritance mechanism?
> >
> > In my understanding (please correct me if I am wrong), this is an
> > orthogonal issue: if I understand well, the issue preventing
> > non-root usage of SCHED_DEADLINE is that a task inheriting a dl
> > entity is not throttled (when the current runtime rrives to 0, the
> > deadline is postponed, but the task stays schedulable). So, I think
> > that removing this behaviour should allow to use SCHED_DEADLINE
> > without starving other tasks...
>
> Right, potential starvation would be gone...
>
> > Then, there is the issue about the deadline and runtime to inherit.
> > And I agree that this is important (and the solution is not easy),
> > but you have this issue even if you use the current "dl_boosted"
> > behaviour... No?
>
> ... but, while it's true that current inheritance has problems w/ o
> w/o boosting behaviour, I wonder if the problem might be more painful
> for a normal user that it's still under runtime enforcement.
I think that the only way to have an answer to this doubt is to try :)
> Disabling
> enforcement seems to hide a bit the fact that we need proper
> inheritance. :-(
My impression is that it hides the problem in some situations, but
the Murphy law ensures that the issue will appear when the quality of
the audio is more important :)
Luca
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-23 16:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-08-15 6:08 SCHED_DEADLINE as user Tim Blechmann
2018-08-15 8:21 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2018-08-17 9:51 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-17 10:08 ` Tim Blechmann
2018-08-17 10:28 ` Juri Lelli
[not found] ` <513fd544-bc51-7ea6-8b94-983d28922a66@klingt.org>
2018-08-20 8:54 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-20 11:54 ` Tim Blechmann
2018-08-20 12:38 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2018-08-20 13:55 ` Tim Blechmann
[not found] ` <e207a65d-b1af-3fb1-8802-d1c05c0a9118@bristot.me>
[not found] ` <05fbd5a4-f354-e084-cf40-8488548d7cb1@klingt.org>
2018-08-21 6:55 ` Tommaso Cucinotta
2018-08-21 7:38 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-22 8:49 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-21 7:17 ` Tommaso Cucinotta
2018-08-21 7:59 ` Tim Blechmann
2018-08-23 9:56 ` luca abeni
2018-08-23 10:23 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-23 10:43 ` luca abeni
2018-08-23 12:37 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-23 12:58 ` luca abeni [this message]
2018-08-23 13:00 ` luca abeni
2018-08-23 13:09 ` Juri Lelli
2018-08-23 13:30 ` luca abeni
2018-08-23 13:45 ` Gene Heskett
2018-08-23 16:01 ` Chris Friesen
2018-08-23 18:07 ` Gene Heskett
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