From: luca abeni <luca.abeni@santannapisa.it>
To: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, mingo@redhat.com, rostedt@goodmis.org,
tglx@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
tommaso.cucinotta@santannapisa.it, alessio.balsini@gmail.com,
bristot@redhat.com, dietmar.eggemann@arm.com,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, mtosatti@redhat.com,
williams@redhat.com, valentin.schneider@arm.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 6/6] sched/fair: Implement starvation monitor
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:55:10 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200807155510.2b380f49@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200807134353.GR42956@localhost.localdomain>
On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 15:43:53 +0200
Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 07/08/20 15:28, luca abeni wrote:
> > Hi Juri,
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Aug 2020 11:56:04 +0200
> > Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Starting deadline server for lower priority classes right away
> > > when first task is enqueued might break guarantees
> >
> > Which guarantees are you thinking about, here? Response times of
> > fixed priority tasks?
>
> Response time, but also wakeup latency (which, for better or worse, is
> another important metric).
>
> > If fixed priority tasks are also scheduled through deadline servers,
> > then you can provide response-time guarantees to them even when
> > lower-priority/non-real-time tasks are scheduled through deadline
> > servers.
>
> Right, but I fear we won't be able to keep current behavior for
> wakeups: RT with highest prio always gets scheduled right away?
Uhm... I think this depends on how the servers' parameters are
designed: assigning "wrong" (or "bad") parameters to the server used to
schedule RT tasks, this property is broken.
(however, notice that even with the current patchset the highest
priority task might be scheduled with some delay --- if the SCHED_OTHER
deadline server is active because SCHED_OTHER tasks are being starved).
Luca
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-08-07 13:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-07 9:50 [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] SCHED_DEADLINE server infrastructure Juri Lelli
2020-08-07 9:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 1/6] sched: Unify runtime accounting across classes Juri Lelli
2020-08-07 9:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 2/6] sched/deadline: Collect sched_dl_entity initialization Juri Lelli
2020-08-07 9:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 3/6] sched/deadline: Move bandwidth accounting into {en,de}queue_dl_entity Juri Lelli
2020-08-07 9:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 4/6] sched/deadline: Introduce deadline servers Juri Lelli
2020-10-06 7:56 ` luca abeni
2020-10-06 9:35 ` Juri Lelli
2020-10-06 9:51 ` luca abeni
2020-08-07 9:50 ` [RFC PATCH v2 5/6] sched/fair: Add trivial fair server Juri Lelli
2020-08-07 9:56 ` [RFC PATCH v2 6/6] sched/fair: Implement starvation monitor Juri Lelli
2020-08-07 10:46 ` peterz
2020-08-07 11:30 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2020-08-07 12:50 ` Juri Lelli
2020-08-07 13:49 ` luca abeni
2020-08-07 14:11 ` peterz
2020-08-07 16:48 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2020-08-07 13:28 ` luca abeni
2020-08-07 13:43 ` Juri Lelli
2020-08-07 13:55 ` luca abeni [this message]
2020-08-07 14:11 ` Juri Lelli
2020-08-07 14:13 ` peterz
2020-08-07 15:06 ` Juri Lelli
2020-08-07 13:16 ` [RFC PATCH v2 0/6] SCHED_DEADLINE server infrastructure luca abeni
2020-08-07 13:30 ` Juri Lelli
2020-08-07 13:41 ` luca abeni
2020-08-07 14:04 ` Juri Lelli
2020-08-07 14:14 ` peterz
2020-09-08 22:22 ` Pavel Machek
2020-09-09 5:51 ` Juri Lelli
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