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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Jillian Donahue <jilliandonahue58@gmail.com>
Cc: "Petr Tesařík" <petesarik@suse.de>, linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Spinlock in f_midi_transmit causing kernel crash
Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2025 08:50:26 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250130075026.RVen6mGf@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAArt=Lj5byHfx7SJXzHiB0ecFDWjhjODyM05=5y27PYj8bGaUQ@mail.gmail.com>

On 2025-01-29 14:59:19 [-0700], Jillian Donahue wrote:
> > So a simple "tasklet_hi_schedule(&midi->tasklet);" instead of "f_midi_transmit(midi)" in f_midi_complete() might do the trick.
> 
> This fixes the problem - do you have any insight to how this worked in
> the first place? Trying to understand the change.

There are possibilities. The problem is that you send a packet and it
completes the same moment and the completion callback is invoked which
deadlocks.

Now:
- PREEMPT_RT may have moved the timing a bit (makes it behave a bit
  different or simply make a UP device behave like a SMP one) to the
  point that it sees the completion of the request where it did not
  before. So does it occur without PREEMPT_RT?

- It never did work in this combination even without PREEMPT_RT. The
  driver (f_midi) was never tested with the USB device controller you
  have and the one it was tested with behaves differently so the
  recursion never occurred.

- It is an old driver (f_midi). It was never tested on SMP or with
  enabled lock testing. On UP spinlocks end up almost as NOPs so a
  deadlock (as in this case) will not be observed.

Either way I would blame f_midi here.
Once you have the pieces together, mind sending a patch?

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2025-01-30  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-01-15  4:05 Spinlock in f_midi_transmit causing kernel crash Jillian Donahue
2025-01-23 13:23 ` Petr Tesařík
2025-01-24 22:21   ` Jillian Donahue
2025-01-29 10:39     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-01-29 21:59       ` Jillian Donahue
2025-01-30  7:50         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2025-01-31 19:08           ` Jillian Donahue
2025-02-03 12:45             ` Luis Claudio R. Goncalves
2025-02-03 13:22               ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-03 17:50                 ` Jillian Donahue
2025-02-06 12:05                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-02-06 18:13                     ` Jillian Donahue

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