From: "bigeasy@linutronix.de" <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Florian Bezdeka <florian.bezdeka@siemens.com>
Cc: "Preclik, Tobias" <tobias.preclik@siemens.com>,
Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
"linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
"Kiszka, Jan" <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: Control of IRQ Affinities from Userspace
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2025 12:50:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20251125115008.-R5m5dX9@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <387396748522d2279c3188e5c2b4345bc2211556.camel@siemens.com>
On 2025-11-25 12:32:39 [+0100], Florian Bezdeka wrote:
> > It seems that if you exclude certain CPUs from getting interrupt
> > handling than it should work fine. Then the driver would only balance
> > the interrupts among the CPUs that are left.
>
> Sebastian, what exactly do you mean by "exclude certain CPUs from
> getting interrupt handling"? I mean, that is what we do by configuring
> the /proc/<irq>/smp_affinity_list interface.
Step #1
- figure out if isolcpus= is restricting the affinity of requested
interrupts to housekeeping CPUs only
Step #2
- Yes
=> look for the matching knob in cgroup interface
Knob found?
- Yes
=> Use knob.
- No.
=> Add knob.
- No
This should be added as it breaks the expectation of an isolated
system.
I *think* the driver should request as many interrupts as there are
available CPUs in the system to handle them. The number of available
CPUs/ CPU mask should be a configure knob by the user. Using the
housekeeping CPUs as a default mask seems reasonable.
The question is what should happen if the mask changes at runtime. Maybe
a device needs to reconfigure, maybe just move the interrupt away.
But this should also affect NOHZ_FULL workloads.
> To sum up:
> - The IRQ balancing issue is not limited to a single driver / subsystem
> - The managed IRQ infrastructure seems very "static" so insufficient for
> this problem. In addition we would have to migrate all affected
> drivers to the managed IRQ infrastructure first.
>
> We would love to hear further thoughts / ideas / comments about this
> problem. We're highly interested in fixing this issue properly.
If the "managed IRQ infrastructure" would help here then why not. Maybe
Frederic has some insight here.
> Thanks for all the comments so far!
>
> Florian
Sebastian
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-11-25 11:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-10-30 14:20 Control of IRQ Affinities from Userspace Preclik, Tobias
2025-11-03 15:53 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-11-03 17:12 ` Florian Bezdeka
2025-11-05 13:11 ` Preclik, Tobias
2025-11-05 13:18 ` Preclik, Tobias
2025-11-11 14:35 ` bigeasy
2025-11-11 14:34 ` bigeasy
2025-11-21 13:25 ` Preclik, Tobias
2025-11-24 9:59 ` bigeasy
2025-11-25 11:32 ` Florian Bezdeka
2025-11-25 11:50 ` bigeasy [this message]
2025-11-25 14:36 ` Florian Bezdeka
2025-11-25 16:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-11-26 9:20 ` Florian Bezdeka
2025-11-26 14:26 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-11-26 15:07 ` Florian Bezdeka
2025-11-26 19:15 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-11-27 14:06 ` Preclik, Tobias
2025-11-27 14:52 ` Florian Bezdeka
2025-11-27 18:09 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-11-28 7:33 ` Florian Bezdeka
2025-11-26 15:45 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-26 15:31 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-26 15:24 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2025-11-11 13:58 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
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