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From: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>
To: Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Gregory Haskins <ghaskins@novell.com>,
	mingo@elte.hu, tglx@linutronix.de, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] seqlock: serialize against writers
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:35:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48B8254D.1010206@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.1.10.0808291233280.17917@gandalf.stny.rr.com>

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Steven Rostedt wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Aug 2008, Gregory Haskins wrote:
>
>   
>> Andi Kleen wrote:
>>     
>>>> Im running it on a x86_64 box as we speak.  How can I tell if there is a
>>>> certain mode that is permitting this?
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> If the boot up says you're running with PMtimer then it uses the fallback
>>> (usually happens on pre Fam10h AMD boxes). A typical Intel box
>>> would use the faster ring 3 only TSC path and then explode with your
>>> change I bet. 
>>>
>>> Or step with gdb through gettimeofday() and see if it does a syscall.
>>>
>>> -Andi
>>>   
>>>       
>> It seems to be running fine with no indication it has fallen back. 
>> Perhaps I need a certain workload to bring out the issue?
>>     
>
> Perhaps you never hit the slow path in userland. That's the only place it 
> would write. Perhaps add a dummy static variable in the fast path, and 
> write to it. See if that crashes you apps.
>
> -- Steve
>   

Yeah, ideas crossed in the mail ;)

I could just force all of the seqbegins to hit the slowpath by hacking
the code and see what happens (aside from slowing down, of course ;)

Question: Which seqlock_t does userspace use?  I assume it uses
seqlock_t and not raw_seqlock_t.  But the only reason that I ask is that
I converted raw_seqlock_t to use the new style as well to be consistent,
even though it is not strictly necessary for the same reasons.  So if
perchance userspace uses the raw variant, I could solve this issue by
only re-working the seqlock_t variant.  Kind of a long shot, but figured
I would mention it :)

-Greg




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  reply	other threads:[~2008-08-29 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-08-29 15:44 [PATCH] seqlock: serialize against writers Gregory Haskins
2008-08-29 16:09 ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-29 16:10   ` Gregory Haskins
2008-08-29 16:22     ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-29 16:26       ` Gregory Haskins
2008-08-29 16:34         ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-29 16:35           ` Gregory Haskins [this message]
2008-08-29 16:45             ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-29 16:53               ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-29 17:00                 ` Gregory Haskins
2008-08-29 17:00               ` Gregory Haskins
2008-08-29 16:58             ` Steven Rostedt
2008-08-29 16:29       ` Gregory Haskins
2008-08-29 16:37         ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-29 16:41           ` Gregory Haskins
2008-08-29 17:08             ` Andi Kleen
2008-08-29 16:57 ` Stephen Hemminger
2008-08-29 17:02   ` [ RT PATCH] " Steven Rostedt
2008-08-29 18:03 ` [RT PATCH v2] " Gregory Haskins
2008-08-29 18:12   ` Gregory Haskins
2008-08-30 11:17   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-30 12:32     ` Gregory Haskins
2008-08-30 12:38       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-08-30 13:05         ` Gregory Haskins
2008-08-30 11:08 ` [PATCH] " Peter Zijlstra
2008-09-02 12:45 ` [RT PATCH v3] " Gregory Haskins
2008-09-02 13:01   ` Gregory Haskins
2008-09-02 13:29 ` [RT PATCH v4] " Gregory Haskins

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