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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Cc: Gregory Haskins <gregory.haskins@gmail.com>,
	kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	RT <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Yang, Sheng" <sheng.yang@intel.com>
Subject: Re: Host latency peaks due to kvm-intel
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 17:45:40 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A6C6C14.4030805@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A6C6970.6060200@web.de>

On 07/26/2009 05:34 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>    
>> On 07/24/2009 12:41 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>      
>>> Jan (who is now patching his guest to avoid wbinvd where possible)
>>>
>>>
>>>        
>> Is there ever a case where it is required?  What about under a
>> hypervisor (i.e. check the hypervisor enabled bit).
>>
>>      
>
> Reminds me of the discussion in '07 when I first stumbled over this :) :
> Yes, the bochs bios could safely skip the wbinvd in qemu mode. But that
> won't safe us from Linux and - far more problematic - Windows or any
> binary-only guest which think they have to issue it.
>
> One may the close eyes, fire up the guest and then start the
> time-critical host application in the hope that the guest remains calm
> as long as it's up and running. But, well...
>    

Given that it's now '09, how critical is the problem?  Don't most cpus 
have vwbinvd now?

If so, the real-time management application can simply refuse to run on 
such an old processor.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-26 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-23 18:07 Host latency peaks due to kvm-intel Jan Kiszka
2009-07-23 19:43 ` Gregory Haskins
2009-07-24  9:41   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-07-24 12:01     ` Gregory Haskins
2009-07-25  8:15     ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-25  9:55       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-07-25 13:27         ` Avi Kivity
2009-07-26 14:23           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-07-26 19:16         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-27  1:11           ` Yang, Sheng
2009-07-27  9:08             ` cpuinfo and HVM features (was: Host latency peaks due to kvm-intel) Jan Kiszka
2009-07-27  9:29               ` Yang, Sheng
2009-07-27 10:31               ` cpuinfo and HVM features Avi Kivity
2009-07-25 14:52     ` Host latency peaks due to kvm-intel Avi Kivity
2009-07-26 10:34       ` Sujit Karataparambil
2009-07-26 14:34       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-07-26 14:45         ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-07-26 14:52           ` Jan Kiszka

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