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From: Darren Hart <dvhltc@us.ibm.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Eric Dumazet <eric.dumazet@gmail.com>,
	John Kacur <jkacur@redhat.com>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] futex: convert hash_bucket locks to raw_spinlock_t
Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 00:12:29 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C3C11DD.4030308@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1278990560.7516.50.camel@marge.simson.net>

On 07/12/2010 08:09 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 22:40 +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
>> On Mon, 12 Jul 2010, Darren Hart wrote:
>>> On 07/10/2010 12:41 PM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 2010-07-09 at 15:33 -0700, Darren Hart wrote:
>>>>>> Out of curiosity, what's wrong with holding his pi_lock across the
>>>>>> wakeup?  He can _try_ to block, but can't until pi state is stable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I presume there's a big fat gotcha that's just not obvious to futex
>>>>>> locking newbie :)
>>>
>>> Nor to some of us that have been engrossed in futexes for the last couple
>>> years! I discussed the pi_lock across the wakeup issue with Thomas. While this
>>> fixes the problem for this particular failure case, it doesn't protect
>>> against:
>>>
>>> <tglx>  assume the following:
>>> <tglx>  t1 is on the condvar
>>> <tglx>  t2 does the requeue dance and t1 is now blocked on the outer futex
>>> <tglx>  t3 takes hb->lock for a futex in the same bucket
>>> <tglx>  t2 wakes due to signal/timeout
>>> <tglx>  t2 blocks on hb->lock
>>>
>>> You are likely to have not hit the above scenario because you only had one
>>> condvar, so the hash_buckets were not heavily shared and you weren't likely to
>>> hit:
>>>
>>> <tglx>  t3 takes hb->lock for a futex in the same bucket
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm going to roll up a patchset with your (Mike) spin_trylock patch and run it
>>> through some tests. I'd still prefer a way to detect early wakeup without
>>> having to grab the hb->lock(), but I haven't found it yet.
>>>
>>> +	while(!spin_trylock(&hb->lock))
>>> +		cpu_relax();
>>>   	ret = handle_early_requeue_pi_wakeup(hb,&q,&key2, to);
>>>   	spin_unlock(&hb->lock);
>>
>> And this is nasty as it will create unbound priority inversion :(
>
> Oh ma gawd, _it's a train_ :>

Seriously.

I have a fix. Cleaning it up as we speak, still hope to send out tonight.

-- 
Darren Hart
IBM Linux Technology Center
Real-Time Linux Team

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-13  7:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-07-09 22:32 [PATCH 0/4][RT] futex: fix tasks blocking on two rt_mutex locks Darren Hart
2010-07-09 22:32 ` [PATCH 1/4] rtmutex: avoid null derefence in WARN_ON Darren Hart
2010-07-10  0:29   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-07-10 14:42     ` Darren Hart
2010-07-09 22:32 ` [PATCH 2/4] rtmutex: add BUG_ON if a task attempts to block on two locks Darren Hart
2010-07-10  0:30   ` Steven Rostedt
2010-07-10 17:30     ` [PATCH 2/4 V2] " Darren Hart
2010-07-09 22:32 ` [PATCH 3/4] futex: free_pi_state outside of hb->lock sections Darren Hart
2010-07-09 22:55   ` [PATCH 3/4 V2] " Darren Hart
2010-07-10  0:32     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-07-10 14:41       ` Darren Hart
2010-07-12 10:35   ` [PATCH 3/4] " Thomas Gleixner
2010-07-12 10:46     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-07-09 22:33 ` [PATCH 4/4] futex: convert hash_bucket locks to raw_spinlock_t Darren Hart
2010-07-09 22:57   ` [PATCH 4/4 V2] " Darren Hart
2010-07-10  0:34     ` Steven Rostedt
2010-07-10 19:41   ` [PATCH 4/4] " Mike Galbraith
2010-07-11 13:33     ` Mike Galbraith
2010-07-11 15:10       ` Darren Hart
2010-07-12 11:45       ` Steven Rostedt
2010-07-12 12:12         ` Mike Galbraith
2010-07-12 19:10     ` Darren Hart
2010-07-12 20:40       ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-07-12 20:43         ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-07-13  3:09         ` Mike Galbraith
2010-07-13  7:12           ` Darren Hart [this message]
2010-07-12 13:05   ` Thomas Gleixner

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