From: Nivedita Singhvi <niv@us.ibm.com>
To: Klaas van Gend <klaas.van.gend@mvista.com>
Cc: jordan <triplesquarednine@gmail.com>, Raz <raziebe@gmail.com>,
linux-rt-users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: preempt rt in commercial use
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2010 07:03:17 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C90D225.1080902@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201009151059.23039.klaas.van.gend@mvista.com>
Klaas van Gend wrote:
> On Wednesday 15 September 2010 05:38:49 jordan wrote:
>> Which leads me to my last example. Most people are aware that since
>> about 1999-2000, Linux has dominated the movie industry. Beginning
>> with Titanic and even today with say, Avatar.
>>
>> I would be willing to bet, that all of those wonderful rendering farms
>> and production suites, are
>> in fact using rt-linux.
>
>
> Please put a lot of money on that bet, because I'd like to win it :-)
>
> Why would those rendering farms use rt-linux?
>
> Rendering is not done in real-time - far from it actually. It can take minutes
> of the entire farm to render a single frame. So rendering is nothing but CPU-
> intensive (calculating how all those lightbeams are reflected by each surface)
> - and everything I/O bound is about throughput: writing the rendered pixels to
> disk and getting more surfaces from disk.
>
> There are no deadlines for rendering, there are no penalties if a frame is
> late by seconds - if the farm cannot complete its job overnight, they'll add
> more CPU power.
While all of the above is true, I'll add that it's worth testing
RT because certain applications which have lock-step operations,
can be very negatively impacted in throughput by severe lack of
determinism. If all of a set of operations need to complete before
they can do the next set of operations, and one of the threads takes
very long, the others all idle as a result. If this happens frequently,
you're better off trying to cap max latencies.
So RT actually provides improved *throughput* as well, despite the
increased overhead.
I don't know if these rendering type applications necessarily
fall into that bucket, but I would at least take a look.
thanks,
Nivedita
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-15 14:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-14 8:10 preempt rt in commercial use Raz
2010-09-14 9:04 ` Rolando Martins
2010-09-14 9:10 ` Raz
2010-09-14 9:20 ` Rolando Martins
2010-09-14 9:17 ` Nikita V. Youshchenko
2010-09-14 9:24 ` Raz
2010-09-14 9:44 ` Robert Schwebel
2010-09-14 12:16 ` Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-14 13:04 ` Daniel James
2010-09-14 13:08 ` Pradyumna Sampath
2010-09-14 22:11 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2010-09-14 13:09 ` Klaas van Gend
2010-09-14 13:17 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-14 13:37 ` Darcy Watkins
2010-09-14 13:58 ` Patrice Kadionik
2010-09-14 14:21 ` Jeff Angielski
2010-09-14 14:30 ` Nikita V. Youshchenko
2010-09-14 14:49 ` Jeff Angielski
2010-09-14 22:20 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2010-09-15 7:48 ` Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-15 14:09 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2010-09-15 14:45 ` Pradyumna Sampath
2010-09-16 10:17 ` Daniel James
2010-09-16 10:35 ` Pradyumna Sampath
2010-09-16 15:19 ` Raz
2010-09-15 15:38 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-15 16:02 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2010-09-15 16:20 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-16 0:44 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-16 15:27 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2010-09-16 17:30 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-16 19:27 ` Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-16 19:38 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-15 13:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-09-14 14:44 ` Pradyumna Sampath
2010-09-15 12:48 ` Sergio Ruocco
2010-09-15 12:53 ` Pradyumna Sampath
2010-09-15 14:58 ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-09-15 16:27 ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2010-09-16 0:49 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-16 5:06 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-14 14:56 ` Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-14 15:42 ` Patrice Kadionik
2010-09-14 17:38 ` Gregory Haskins
2010-09-14 22:09 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2010-09-15 6:22 ` Patrice Kadionik
[not found] ` <4C90CF71.2050205@us.ibm.com>
2010-09-15 13:56 ` Patrice Kadionik
2010-09-15 14:08 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-14 10:06 ` Klaas van Gend
2010-09-14 11:00 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-14 9:28 ` Pradyumna Sampath
2010-09-14 14:13 ` Reagan Thomas
2010-09-15 7:09 ` AW: " Lukas Redlinger
2010-09-15 3:38 ` jordan
2010-09-15 8:59 ` Klaas van Gend
2010-09-15 11:03 ` TinxCore and PREEMPT_RT Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-16 9:38 ` Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-16 10:18 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-16 11:25 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-16 11:51 ` Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-15 14:03 ` Nivedita Singhvi [this message]
2010-09-15 17:29 ` preempt rt in commercial use Reagan Thomas
2010-09-16 10:39 ` Daniel James
2010-09-16 20:47 ` jordan
2010-09-16 10:07 ` Daniel James
2010-09-16 20:37 ` jordan
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