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From: Daniel James <daniel@64studio.com>
To: jordan <triplesquarednine@gmail.com>
Cc: Raz <raziebe@gmail.com>, linux-rt-users <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: preempt rt in commercial use
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:07:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C91EC5A.7070105@64studio.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTi=v_vgk=QwCZPDZWVp+z57_jaPc5=CCnA0Wfmr_@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Jordan,

> Next, in the Pro-audio sector, you have Muse Research who make the
> "Recepter".  Which is a hardware VST host.

That's just one example of many in the pro audio sector (that we know
about, since the companies involved aren't required to disclose their
use of GNU/Linux - it's a competitive advantage, so they have a
disincentive to do so). Several flagship audio mixing and recording
systems use the Linux kernel, including the Harrison Xrange:

http://www.harrisonconsoles.com/joomla/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=26&Itemid=51

and the Midas XL8:

http://www.midasconsoles.com/xl8.php

If you have been to see a Hollywood movie, or attended a stadium gig on
a rock band's world tour, you have almost certainly been listening to
audio mixed on a Harrison or Midas console - these companies are at the
top of their game.

RT-Linux provides significant advantage for these companies over
proprietary RTOS products because of time-to-market, not licence costs:
there are many audio software components available for re-use, leaving
the integrator to write the last parts of the code.

There's also knowledge transfer from the Linux HPC sector - for example,
the Xrange uses up to 120 Opteron CPUs, so it's hardly a 'desktop'
system. You don't get that combination of high performance and reliable,
re-usable source code with any other platform, RT or otherwise.

Licence fees for proprietary software aren't the big deal for companies
selling a relatively small number of expensive products. I think people
get confused with consumer products like mobile phones, where it's
supposedly all about volume. Actually, I think the independence of OEM's
from proprietary software vendors has more to do with it. Microsoft has
significant lock-in with consumers, and yet it still can't persuade
people to buy Windows phones :-)

Cheers!

Daniel

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-16 10:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-09-14  8:10 preempt rt in commercial use Raz
2010-09-14  9:04 ` Rolando Martins
2010-09-14  9:10   ` Raz
2010-09-14  9:20     ` Rolando Martins
2010-09-14  9:17 ` Nikita V. Youshchenko
2010-09-14  9:24   ` Raz
2010-09-14  9:44     ` Robert Schwebel
2010-09-14 12:16       ` Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-14 13:04         ` Daniel James
2010-09-14 13:08         ` Pradyumna Sampath
2010-09-14 22:11           ` Nivedita Singhvi
2010-09-14 13:09         ` Klaas van Gend
2010-09-14 13:17         ` David Kastrup
2010-09-14 13:37           ` Darcy Watkins
2010-09-14 13:58         ` Patrice Kadionik
2010-09-14 14:21       ` Jeff Angielski
2010-09-14 14:30         ` Nikita V. Youshchenko
2010-09-14 14:49           ` Jeff Angielski
2010-09-14 22:20             ` Nivedita Singhvi
2010-09-15  7:48               ` Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-15 14:09                 ` Nivedita Singhvi
2010-09-15 14:45                   ` Pradyumna Sampath
2010-09-16 10:17                     ` Daniel James
2010-09-16 10:35                       ` Pradyumna Sampath
2010-09-16 15:19                       ` Raz
2010-09-15 15:38                   ` David Kastrup
2010-09-15 16:02                     ` Nivedita Singhvi
2010-09-15 16:20                       ` David Kastrup
2010-09-16  0:44                         ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-16 15:27                           ` Nivedita Singhvi
2010-09-16 17:30                             ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-16 19:27                               ` Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-16 19:38                                 ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-15 13:33             ` Thomas Gleixner
2010-09-14 14:44         ` Pradyumna Sampath
2010-09-15 12:48           ` Sergio Ruocco
2010-09-15 12:53             ` Pradyumna Sampath
2010-09-15 14:58             ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-09-15 16:27             ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2010-09-16  0:49               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-16  5:06                 ` David Kastrup
2010-09-14 14:56         ` Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-14 15:42         ` Patrice Kadionik
2010-09-14 17:38         ` Gregory Haskins
2010-09-14 22:09           ` Nivedita Singhvi
2010-09-15  6:22             ` Patrice Kadionik
     [not found]               ` <4C90CF71.2050205@us.ibm.com>
2010-09-15 13:56                 ` Patrice Kadionik
2010-09-15 14:08               ` Steven Rostedt
2010-09-14 10:06   ` Klaas van Gend
2010-09-14 11:00     ` David Kastrup
2010-09-14  9:28 ` Pradyumna Sampath
2010-09-14 14:13 ` Reagan Thomas
2010-09-15  7:09   ` AW: " Lukas Redlinger
2010-09-15  3:38 ` jordan
2010-09-15  8:59   ` Klaas van Gend
2010-09-15 11:03     ` TinxCore and PREEMPT_RT Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-16  9:38       ` Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-16 10:18         ` David Kastrup
2010-09-16 11:25           ` Mike Galbraith
2010-09-16 11:51           ` Armin Steinhoff
2010-09-15 14:03     ` preempt rt in commercial use Nivedita Singhvi
2010-09-15 17:29       ` Reagan Thomas
2010-09-16 10:39         ` Daniel James
2010-09-16 20:47           ` jordan
2010-09-16 10:07   ` Daniel James [this message]
2010-09-16 20:37     ` jordan

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