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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>, RT <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RT 3.18] ring-buffer: Mark irq_work as HARD_IRQ to prevent deadlocks
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2015 16:57:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <552FCDD3.2010804@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <552FC72A.8060709@siemens.com>

On 04/16/2015 04:28 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2015-04-16 16:26, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
>> On 04/16/2015 04:06 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> ftrace may trigger rb_wakeups while holding pi_lock which will also be
>>> requested via trace_...->...->ring_buffer_unlock_commit->...->
>>> irq_work_queue->raise_softirq->try_to_wake_up. This quickly causes
>>> deadlocks when trying to use ftrace under -rt.
>>>
>>> Resolve this by marking the ring buffer's irq_work as HARD_IRQ.
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
>>> ---
>>>
>>> I'm not yet sure if this doesn't push work into hard-irq context that
>>> is better not done there on -rt.
>>
>> everything should be done in the soft-irq.
>>
>>>
>>> I'm also not sure if there aren't more such cases, given that -rt turns
>>> the default irq_work wakeup policy around. But maybe we are lucky.
>>
>> The only thing that is getting done in the hardirq is the FULL_NO_HZ
>> thingy. I would be _very_ glad if we could keep it that way.
> 
> Then - to my current understanding - we need an NMI-safe trigger for
> soft-irq work. Is there anything like this existing already? Or can we
> still use the IPI-based kick without actually doing the work in hard-irq
> context?

But if you trigger it via IPI it will still run in hardirq context,
right? Can you describe how run into this and try to think about it in
a quiet moment. It it just enabling the function tracer and running it?

> Jan

Sebastian


  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-16 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-04-16 14:06 [PATCH RT 3.18] ring-buffer: Mark irq_work as HARD_IRQ to prevent deadlocks Jan Kiszka
2015-04-16 14:12 ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-16 14:26 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2015-04-16 14:28   ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-16 14:57     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2015-04-16 15:31       ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-16 15:10     ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-16 15:29       ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-16 15:33         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2015-04-16 16:28         ` [PATCH RT 3.18] irq_work: Provide a soft-irq based queue Jan Kiszka
2015-04-20  8:03           ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-23  6:11             ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-23  6:29               ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-23  6:58                 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-23  7:14                   ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-23  6:50               ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-23  7:01                 ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-23  7:12                   ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-23  7:19                     ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-23 21:00                       ` Steven Rostedt
2015-04-24  6:54                         ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-24  9:00                           ` Jan Kiszka
2015-04-24  9:59                             ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-25  7:20                             ` Mike Galbraith
2015-04-25  7:26                               ` Jan Kiszka
2015-05-18 19:52                                 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior

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