Re: linux rt 3.4.8-rt16 and nv 302.17, and system freezes, does nvidia strike again?

[Javier Sanz <jsanza@gmail.com>]

Yes, it is a "free" market, but there is "no free money" to make
change as needed...


2012/8/23 Sven-Thorsten Dietrich <sven@thebigcorporation.com>:
> Can you use a product other than NVidia?
>
> It's a free market:
>
> Use what works, reject what doesn't.
>
> Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
> 415 4804180
>
> On Aug 23, 2012, at 1:47, Javier Sanz <jsanza@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I can understand that there are many problems, nvidia drivers, rt
>> kernel, and no collaboration between those involved, thereby
>> ultimately harms the opensource community, etc., And in my case, the
>> main thing is that I have no knowledge to fix them, or help to be
>> corrected, for now all I can ask for help and hope someone help me.
>>
>> For example, how I can see where the problem occurs? because there is
>> no trace in the files of nvidia, the dmesg, nowhere ...
>> how can i get a document to help people to find theses problems? which
>> files affected, boots modes, etc ...  show to people that there are a
>> way to damm nvidia drivers ...
>>
>> You say that there is a message,
>> [6.993495] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
>>
>> how do you get it ? have you sent this information any nvidia  forums?
>> no answer?  how can we fix it ?
>>
>> Yesterday, testing with kernel 3.4.9-rt17 with nvidia 304.37 drivers
>> ... nvidia gt 240 ...  all blocked .. i am at same point ...
>>
>> So, what is the next step? mails? forums?
>>
>> What do you suggest?
>>
>> TX
>>
>>
>> 2012/8/18 David L. Craig <dlc.usa@gmail.com>:
>>> On 12Aug18:1152+0200, Javier Sanz wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yes, i got the same problem, black screen, no mouse, no keyboard ...
>>>> i didnt  change any config file from X or nvidia ... only rt patch
>>>> applied  ...  :(
>>>> I'll try with nvidia 304.37 ... no patch required ? ... i'll test ...
>>>>
>>>> thank you
>>>
>>> Just to be sure you didn't misunderstand the situation,
>>> I do not have any rt kernel working with nvidia
>>> except the Linux Mint Debian XFCE 13 distribution.
>>> Debian considers this an important bug but nVidia's
>>> assessment is unknown to date.
>>>
>>> Perhaps another rt-kernel lister can offer a quality
>>> suggestion about a likely fruitful approach to finding
>>> people able and willing to dig into what the kern.log
>>> shows is going on and direct further resolution
>>> activities.  Such people are probably rt-kernel and/or
>>> nVidia developers.  I could probably do it myself after
>>> three months of nothing but working on it (including
>>> in my sleep ;-) ).  I'd hazard a guess the following
>>> has a lot to do with the problem:
>>>
>>> [    6.993495] Disabling lock debugging due to kernel taint
>>>
>>> I don't know what the long-term outlook for nVidia market
>>> share in the FLOSS area is.  I saw hardware acceleration
>>> is apparently required for GNOME Unity.  That's good for
>>> the hardware vendors, I suppose, but problematic for folks
>>> who take the L in FLOSS very seriously.  I think we all
>>> wish the vendors would choose to make these problems go
>>> away by distributing their source.  As RMS says, they
>>> won't if they don't have to, so we shouldn't be pragmatic,
>>> just say no thank you.  Can I live without FlightGear?
>>> Why should I have to, nVidia (BTW, I was given your
>>> hardware--I wouldn't buy it)?  If the gamers really are
>>> becoming Windows 8 refugees, I guess there's hope for the
>>> future.  But if the governments start locking up systems
>>> programming, doling out practioner licenses, and making
>>> libre software illegal, then not.
>>>
>>> But to hopefully get back on topic, I have the impression
>>> I NEED the rt kernel because FG frame updates get
>>> behind without it.  I've heard JACK audio works well
>>> enough without rt these days (but I don't believe it
>>> yet--soon enough I will be able to prove it to myself,
>>> unless I get a job).
>>> --
>>> May the LORD God bless you exceedingly abundantly!
>>>
>>> Dave_Craig______________________________________________
>>> "So the universe is not quite as you thought it was.
>>> You'd better rearrange your beliefs, then.
>>> Because you certainly can't rearrange the universe."
>>> __--from_Nightfall_by_Asimov/Silverberg_________________
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