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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>
To: Daniel Bristot de Oliveira <bristot@redhat.com>
Cc: Florent Carli <fcarli@gmail.com>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org,
	"Joel Fernandes (Google)" <joel@joelfernandes.org>
Subject: Re: RCU stall warnings even with rcu_nocbs and rcu_nocb_poll
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2022 08:57:15 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Yz58S8PXdBOO9bhL@linutronix.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e86930e4-4b9c-cf18-5119-50c6910b76dd@redhat.com>

On 2022-10-05 18:03:39 [+0200], Daniel Bristot de Oliveira wrote:
> On 10/5/22 18:01, Florent Carli wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > I'm trying to isolate some cores to run a CPU-bound real-time task and
> > even though I'm using rcu_nocbs and rcu_nocb_poll, I can see the rcuc
> > threads wake up, and I get RCU stall warnings on the isolated core.
> > As per the documentation, if I use rcutree.kthread_prio with a
> > priority > my RT task, then the rcu stall does not happen.
> > 
> > However I find it confusing: why are the rcuc threads woken up on the
> > isolated cores despite using rcu_nocbs and rcu_nocb_poll? In my (very
> > likely erroneous) understanding, I shouldn't have to fiddle with rcu
> > priority... In other words, how come I get rcu stalls on cores that
> > have no rcu callbacks?

There are different things:
- with CONFIG_RCU_NOCB_CPU you get addition threads and can move the
  rcuo* theads away from the isolated CPU. That means the callbacks will
  be handled on a different CPU.

- you still need to track/ follow the grace period. This still happens
  in the rcuc thread. To get around this you need to use NO_HZ_FULL with
  isolcpus/rcu_nocbs.

> Adding Joel because we had a chat about it during lpc...
> 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> -- Daniel

Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-06  6:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-05 16:01 RCU stall warnings even with rcu_nocbs and rcu_nocb_poll Florent Carli
2022-10-05 16:03 ` Daniel Bristot de Oliveira
2022-10-06  6:57   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior [this message]
2022-10-06 13:31   ` Joel Fernandes
2022-10-06 14:13     ` Paul E. McKenney
2022-10-07 15:06       ` Florent Carli

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