From: "Ville Syrjälä" <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
To: Mike Galbraith <efault@gmx.de>
Cc: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de>,
Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk>,
linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org, intel-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
Debian kernel maintainers <debian-kernel@lists.debian.org>
Subject: Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915
Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2025 18:50:13 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <aG_hNb-c_m0yfVE4@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <da51a963b04f0a1b628e80a2c5df72a1609960d1.camel@gmx.de>
On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 06:52:58AM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-07-09 at 23:09 +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 09:44:43PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > On 2025-07-09 20:30:26 [+0300], Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It seems like the critical uncore lock is currently held in a lot of
> > > > > places and potentially for a long time.
> > > >
> > > > It shouldn't be held for that long. I think it should just be
> > > > a raw spinlock.
> > >
> > > What about I resubmit the series and we look again? I don't think the
> > > lock should be made raw just to be done with it.
> >
> > Until someone actually does the work to confirm the thing is working
> > reliably there's no point in posting anything.
>
> What does that entail?
Basic testing would be something like this:
- enable CONFIG_DRM_I915_DEBUG_VBLANK_EVADE
- set i915.enable_dsb=0 to make sure everything takes the
mmio path
- stress the heck out of it and make sure the histogram
doesn't look significantly worse than on !RT
(kms_atomic_transition --extended might take care of the display
side here, but it should probably be accompanied with some
horrendous system loads which is a less well defined part)
- ideally do that on a potato
(some VLV/CHV (Atom) thing would probably be a good candidate)
- repeat with lockdep enabled to make everything even harder
--
Ville Syrjälä
Intel
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-07-10 15:50 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-07-08 19:35 PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Ben Hutchings
2025-07-09 17:30 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-07-09 19:44 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-09 20:09 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-07-09 22:04 ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-10 6:30 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-10 15:21 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-07-10 18:04 ` Matthew Brost
2025-07-10 18:15 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-07-10 4:52 ` Mike Galbraith
2025-07-10 15:50 ` Ville Syrjälä [this message]
2025-07-11 2:36 ` Mike Galbraith
2025-07-11 3:33 ` Mike Galbraith
2025-07-11 8:05 ` block: lockdep splat with RT config v6.15+ Mike Galbraith
2025-07-11 8:59 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 9:03 ` Mike Galbraith
2025-07-10 6:41 ` PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-10 15:04 ` Ville Syrjälä
2025-07-10 15:20 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-07-11 12:35 ` Maarten Lankhorst
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