Re: Plan to support RT on 3.8

Re: Plan to support RT on 3.8

[Thomas Gleixner]

Jain,

please do not take this reply as a personal affront!

This is solely about the impertinence of your employer as I have
already ignored _three_ private mails with the same topic originated
from Freescale management folks.

Though, I'm happy that you've been obviously forced by the same people
which I ignored to send this mail. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able
to give a public response.

On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, Jain Priyanka-B32167 wrote:

> We are planning for our next BSP. For that. We would like to use
> Linux kernel 3.8.
> 
> It would be really helpful if you can please share the plan of RT
> support on 3.8 kernel.
>
> When can the release be expected?

I think I've made it entirely clear in the past, that these stupid
roadmap and release plan questions are annoying as hell.

	See: http://bit.ly/XJF0em

I'm really amazed by the chuzpa of Freescale management folks to
demand information from an Open Source project solely for the sake of
Freescale business decisions.

I would not mind such a demand from someone who actively fosters the
development of this project (either by providing substantial man power
or by sustainably funding it), but it seems that none of the managers
at Freescale noticed my recent observations about participation on
PREEMPT_RT.

	See: https://lwn.net/Articles/524329/
	and  https://lwn.net/Articles/232379/


Just to make it clear:

 - Neither I nor anyone else in the PREEMPT_RT community has any
   interest in Freescale business decisions.

 - I personally detest the abuse of Freescale engineers who are
   involved with this project to be forced to gain information which
   their managers could not get.

 - I call out Freescale management folks to explain why they think
   that Open Source free-riding entitles them to demand anything from
   the community.

Thanks,

	tglx

Re: Plan to support RT on 3.8

[E-Blokos]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: "Jain Priyanka-B32167" <B32167@freescale.com>
Cc: "Carsten Emde" <C.Emde@osadl.org>; "Steven Rostedt" 
<rostedt@goodmis.org>; <linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org>; "Dev Manish-R65866" 
<R65866@freescale.com>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: Plan to support RT on 3.8


> Jain,
>
> please do not take this reply as a personal affront!
>
> This is solely about the impertinence of your employer as I have
> already ignored _three_ private mails with the same topic originated
> from Freescale management folks.
>
> Though, I'm happy that you've been obviously forced by the same people
> which I ignored to send this mail. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able
> to give a public response.
>
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, Jain Priyanka-B32167 wrote:
>
>> We are planning for our next BSP. For that. We would like to use
>> Linux kernel 3.8.
>>
>> It would be really helpful if you can please share the plan of RT
>> support on 3.8 kernel.
>>
>> When can the release be expected?
>
> I think I've made it entirely clear in the past, that these stupid
> roadmap and release plan questions are annoying as hell.
>
> See: http://bit.ly/XJF0em
>
> I'm really amazed by the chuzpa of Freescale management folks to
> demand information from an Open Source project solely for the sake of
> Freescale business decisions.
>
> I would not mind such a demand from someone who actively fosters the
> development of this project (either by providing substantial man power
> or by sustainably funding it), but it seems that none of the managers
> at Freescale noticed my recent observations about participation on
> PREEMPT_RT.
>
> See: https://lwn.net/Articles/524329/
> and  https://lwn.net/Articles/232379/
>
>
> Just to make it clear:
>
> - Neither I nor anyone else in the PREEMPT_RT community has any
>   interest in Freescale business decisions.
>
> - I personally detest the abuse of Freescale engineers who are
>   involved with this project to be forced to gain information which
>   their managers could not get.
>
> - I call out Freescale management folks to explain why they think
>   that Open Source free-riding entitles them to demand anything from
>   the community.
>
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
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Why Freescale corporation didn'et make any donation to RT open source 
project already
if they need RT super developers ? :o)
Seems that human nature wants always pervert freedom for their profits....


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RE: Plan to support RT on 3.8

[Jain Priyanka-B32167]

Dear Thomas,

I really appreciate the efforts that open-source community puts up and know this work is not for any commercial gain
I am really sorry if my query has annoyed you.


But regarding my company, I would say it is one of the best place to work at.
Here we are given freedom to interact with open-source community and I was not forced by anyone to raise this query.

And it was just a query not a demand but I am again sorry for this.


Thanks
Priyanka


> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-rt-users-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-rt-users-
> owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Gleixner
> Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2013 4:25 AM
> To: Jain Priyanka-B32167
> Cc: Carsten Emde; Steven Rostedt; linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org; Dev
> Manish-R65866
> Subject: Re: Plan to support RT on 3.8
> 
> Jain,
> 
> please do not take this reply as a personal affront!
> 
> This is solely about the impertinence of your employer as I have already
> ignored _three_ private mails with the same topic originated from
> Freescale management folks.
> 
> Though, I'm happy that you've been obviously forced by the same people
> which I ignored to send this mail. Otherwise I wouldn't have been able to
> give a public response.
> 
> On Fri, 18 Jan 2013, Jain Priyanka-B32167 wrote:
> 
> > We are planning for our next BSP. For that. We would like to use Linux
> > kernel 3.8.
> >
> > It would be really helpful if you can please share the plan of RT
> > support on 3.8 kernel.
> >
> > When can the release be expected?
> 
> I think I've made it entirely clear in the past, that these stupid
> roadmap and release plan questions are annoying as hell.
> 
> 	See: http://bit.ly/XJF0em
> 
> I'm really amazed by the chuzpa of Freescale management folks to demand
> information from an Open Source project solely for the sake of Freescale
> business decisions.
> 
> I would not mind such a demand from someone who actively fosters the
> development of this project (either by providing substantial man power or
> by sustainably funding it), but it seems that none of the managers at
> Freescale noticed my recent observations about participation on
> PREEMPT_RT.
> 
> 	See: https://lwn.net/Articles/524329/
> 	and  https://lwn.net/Articles/232379/
> 
> 
> Just to make it clear:
> 
>  - Neither I nor anyone else in the PREEMPT_RT community has any
>    interest in Freescale business decisions.
> 
>  - I personally detest the abuse of Freescale engineers who are
>    involved with this project to be forced to gain information which
>    their managers could not get.
> 
>  - I call out Freescale management folks to explain why they think
>    that Open Source free-riding entitles them to demand anything from
>    the community.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	tglx
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