From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: =?UTF-8?Q?St=c3=a9phane_Ancelot?= Subject: Re: realtime ethernet Date: Thu, 4 May 2017 09:54:36 +0200 Message-ID: References: <568ec603-8a01-3726-dd8e-6cf04e055767@numalliance.com> <20170503213309.GA27055@unpythonic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Cc: linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org To: Jeff Epler Return-path: Received: from mail.numalliance.com ([83.206.84.204]:51372 "EHLO mail.numalliance.com" rhost-flags-OK-OK-OK-OK) by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S1751721AbdEDHyt (ORCPT ); Thu, 4 May 2017 03:54:49 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20170503213309.GA27055@unpythonic.net> Sender: linux-rt-users-owner@vger.kernel.org List-ID: Hi, In any cases, I understand that the classic linux nic driver needs modifications to be realtime. (refer to rtnet work) because of the NAPI stack not really suitable for realtime. So, I understand that these modifications are not parts of the rt preeempt patch today. for some nics, yes, there are some not well documented timeouts registers to be "hacked" in order being realtime too. Regards, S.Ancelot Le 03/05/2017 à 23:33, Jeff Epler a écrit : > In LinuxCNC, we are successfully using rt preempt for realtime > networking. You can find the code in our public git: > https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/blob/master/src/hal/drivers/mesa-hostmot2/hm2_eth.c > (GPL2+ license). This talks to an FPGA board from Mesa Electronics, > which is running its own embedded realtime software stack. > > Depending on the setup, this generally consists of 2 UDP packets > transmitted + 1 packet received, at a repetitive rate between 500Hz and > 4kHz, with most users selecting 1kHz as far as we're aware. The packets > aren't that big overall, without looking I bet it's under 1kB per period > all told. (so the bandwidth utilization is not high) > > On the Linux end we are generally using a dedicated gigabit NIC, and my > testing personally has been with Intel PCI-E nics like 82574L. Most > users attach a single FPGA board (that board has a 100-megabit NIC) but > it's also possible to attach several boards via a dedicated gigabit > switch. > > (The packet data consists of information from a CNC machine such as > motor position and other machine state, and commands to the machine > consist of things like motor torque commands or step waveform frequency > commands; LinuxCNC closes the position loop and performs other machine > logic) > > As usual, not all mainboards and NICs are suitable, but we certainly > have success with specific Intel NICs. (and maybe some realteks?) > > There are some tunables like RX IRQ coalesce that need to be, er, tuned > but I don't have that info on hand and it looks like it isn't in our > documentation. :( > > I wish the tricks like manual ARP pinning and firewall manipulation > weren't necessary, but in our situation they seem to be somewhere > between helpful and necessary. In particular, needing to ARP the other > NIC is not great for latency. > > I've used hm2_eth with a range of RT kernels from 3.2 to 4.9 (usually > debian -rt kernels). > > Disclaimer: I was compensated for the work I'm describing here > > Jeff