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E.g. the performance protocol >>> can be used by cpufreq and devfreq/performance genpd drivers. >> >> Note it is ok to have multiple drivers bind to the same modalias, >> depending on the reason why there are multiple drivers either one >> should detect that it is not compatible and exit probe() with -ENODEV >> or there should be some other mechanism to make sure only one driver >> loads. >> >> E.g. duplicate USB device-ids happen (they shouldn't but they do) and >> then the drivers typically figure out if they are talking to the device >> which they were written for, or the other device with the same USB-ids >> and then one of the 2 drivers exits with -ENODEV. >> > > Understood. Sorry I tried to explain with examples assuming you may not > be aware of the details, but now reading your response, you have better > examples. > >>>> I wonder if we can just move a small part of the drivers >>>> (some mapping table) into the bus code and then just have this work as it >>>> does on regular busses. I hope to be able to make some time to look into >>>> this soonish. >>>> >>> >>> I started with that few years ago and we then moved to this dynamic >>> device creation. But I agree if it is deviation from the norms(which I >>> wasn't aware of at the time), we can remove it. >> >> Looking at the issue this is causing for automatic module loading if we >> can get back to the bus enumeration code always creating a device without >> waiting for the driver kmod to load then that would be good IMHO. >> > > Sure if it fixes the issue for you. Cristian can point out anything I > might have missed to consider as he is the one who reworked it and made > it dynamic device creation which at the time sounded nice option to > solve the issue. We weren't aware that it could cause such issues 🙁. Note that before patch 1/2 of this series we did not have working module-autoloading for SCMI modules at all. With that said yes it would be nice to get this working. Can you provide a patch for this to try ? Regards, Hans