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From: "Mateusz Jończyk" <mat.jonczyk@o2.pl>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>
Cc: lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Anna-Maria Behnsen <anna-maria@linutronix.de>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <frederic@kernel.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [ BUG: Invalid wait context ] rtc_lock at: mc146818_avoid_UIP
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2025 14:32:19 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <45cee3c7-e1b2-4058-bc81-c6eb5935fad0@o2.pl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <947b1ceb-77a3-439b-bb7b-6eba38e12cb3@o2.pl>

W dniu 30.03.2025 o 14:23, Mateusz Jończyk pisze:
> W dniu 30.03.2025 o 13:32, Borislav Petkov pisze:
>> So,
>>
>> while playing with suspend to RAM, I got this lockdep splat below.
>>
>> Poking around I found:
>>
>> ec5895c0f2d8 ("rtc: mc146818-lib: extract mc146818_avoid_UIP")
>>
>> which is doing this funky taking and dropping the rtc_lock and I 
>> guess that's
>> inherited from ye olde times.
>>
>> I "fixed" it so lockdeup doesn't warn by converting rtc_lock to a raw 
>> spinlock
>> but this is definitely not the right fix so let me bounce it off to 
>> the folks
>> on Cc who might have a better idea perhaps...
>>
>> Thx.
>
> Hello,
>
> This problem has been reported before, see
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/all/463fbc29-b41f-4d2d-a869-108114000cdb@o2.pl/
>
> I started work on converting rtc_lock to a raw spinlock, but got stuck 
> mostly to a lack
> of time etc. Only did some MIPS patches (unpublished).
>
> The problem is that timekeeping_suspend() takes a raw spinlock called 
> "tk_core.lock".
> With this lock taken, this function indirectly calls 
> mc146818_avoid_UIP(), which takes
> a normal spinlock called "rtc_lock". It is necessary to take the 
> rtc_lock while accessing
> the RTC: the RTC access cycle consists of writing to an index register 
> and then accessing
> the data register. If something else touches the index register in the 
> middle, we get garbage.
>
> During a RTC tick, the RTC date/time registers are in an unspecified 
> state - roughly during this
> time the UIP (Update In Progress) bit in an RTC register A is set. 
> This is handled by
> mc146818_avoid_UIP(). This function takes and releases the rtc_lock 
> multiple times,
> in order not to hold it for too long a time (while sleeping).

I meant "while waiting / while calling udelay()". mc146818_avoid_UIP() 
does not sleep.

> But the rtc_lock does need to be taken anyway.
>
> So the solutions would be:
>
> 1. Change the rtc_lock to a raw spinlock.
>
> 2. Change the tick_freeze_lock to a normal spinlock (if possible).
>
> 3. Possibly rewrite mc146818_avoid_UIP to avoid taking the rtc_lock if 
> the tick_freeze_lock is held (likely ugly).
>
> 4. Maybe something else I haven't thought about.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mateusz

Greetings,

Mateusz


  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-30 12:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-30 11:32 [ BUG: Invalid wait context ] rtc_lock at: mc146818_avoid_UIP Borislav Petkov
2025-03-30 12:23 ` Mateusz Jończyk
2025-03-30 12:32   ` Mateusz Jończyk [this message]
2025-04-03 13:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-04-03 13:50   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-04-03 19:36     ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-04-03 20:26       ` Thomas Gleixner
2025-04-04  6:16         ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-04-04 13:34         ` [PATCH] timekeeping: Add a lockdep override in tick_freeze() Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-04-04 18:47           ` Mateusz Jończyk
2025-04-09 19:13           ` Peter Zijlstra
2025-05-31 18:27           ` Chris Bainbridge
2025-05-31 19:16             ` Chris Bainbridge
2025-06-02 19:52               ` Mateusz Jończyk
2025-06-02 20:20                 ` [DRAFT PATCH] rtc-cmos: use spin_lock_irqsave in cmos_interrupt Mateusz Jończyk
2025-06-02 21:19                   ` Chris Bainbridge
2025-06-03  6:47                   ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2025-04-03 23:46   ` [ BUG: Invalid wait context ] rtc_lock at: mc146818_avoid_UIP Mateusz Jończyk
2025-04-04  7:39     ` Thomas Gleixner

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