From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: Gabriel Beddingfield <gabe@nestlabs.com>,
LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, Guy Erb <guy@nestlabs.com>,
hharte@nestlabs.com, Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Extreme time jitter with suspend/resume cycles
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 16:11:09 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1710051610170.2083@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1710051301250.2083@nanos>
On Thu, 5 Oct 2017, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2017, John Stultz wrote:
> > So, on resume when we call __timekeeping_inject_sleeptime(), that uses
> > the TK_CLEAR_NTP which clears the NTP state (sets STA_UNSYNC, etc) .
> > I'm not sure how else we can notify userspace. It may be that ntpd
> > doesn't expect the kernel to set things as unsynced and doesn't
> > recover well, but the proper fix for that probably is in userspace.
>
> Errm. No, __timekeeping_inject_sleeptime() only updates the timekeeper.
That should read:
updates the timekeeper data fields, but does not call
timekeeping_update().
>
> We have two call sites:
>
> timekeeping_resume()
> {
> .....
> if (sleeptime_injected)
> __timekeeping_inject_sleeptime(tk, &ts_delta);
> ...
> timekeeping_update(tk, TK_MIRROR | TK_CLOCK_WAS_SET);
> ...
> }
>
> and
>
> timekeeping_inject_sleeptime64()
> {
> __timekeeping_inject_sleeptime(tk, &delta);
> ...
> timekeeping_update(tk, TK_CLEAR_NTP | TK_MIRROR | TK_CLOCK_WAS_SET);
> ...
> }
>
> But Gabriel talks about the effects from injecting sleep time in
> timekeeping_resume() because that's where we use
> read_persistent_clock64(). And there we don't clear NTP, unless there is
> some magic I'm missing completely.
>
> Thanks,
>
> tglx
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-05 14:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-04 16:11 Extreme time jitter with suspend/resume cycles Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-04 18:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-04 23:10 ` Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-05 0:20 ` John Stultz
2017-10-05 16:46 ` Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-05 11:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-05 16:47 ` Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-05 18:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-05 20:51 ` Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-05 21:04 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-05 21:12 ` Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-05 21:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-05 0:16 ` John Stultz
2017-10-05 11:05 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-05 14:11 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-10-05 11:08 ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-10-05 20:14 ` Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-05 21:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-15 6:39 ` Introduce clock precision to help time travelers was " Pavel Machek
2017-10-18 20:34 ` Alan Cox
2017-10-18 21:08 ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-18 21:26 ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-10-18 21:56 ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-04 15:34 ` Alexandre Belloni
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