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From: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
To: John Stultz <john.stultz@linaro.org>
Cc: Gabriel Beddingfield <gabe@nestlabs.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Boyd <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	Alessandro Zummo <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	Alexandre Belloni <alexandre.belloni@free-electrons.com>,
	linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org, Guy Erb <guy@nestlabs.com>,
	hharte@nestlabs.com, Miroslav Lichvar <mlichvar@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: Extreme time jitter with suspend/resume cycles
Date: Thu, 5 Oct 2017 16:11:09 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1710051610170.2083@nanos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1710051301250.2083@nanos>

On Thu, 5 Oct 2017, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Wed, 4 Oct 2017, John Stultz wrote:
> > So, on resume when we call __timekeeping_inject_sleeptime(), that uses
> > the TK_CLEAR_NTP which clears the NTP state (sets STA_UNSYNC, etc) .
> > I'm not sure how else we can notify userspace.  It may be that ntpd
> > doesn't expect the kernel to set things as unsynced and doesn't
> > recover well, but the proper fix for that probably is in userspace.
> 
> Errm. No, __timekeeping_inject_sleeptime() only updates the timekeeper.

That should read:

     updates the timekeeper data fields, but does not call
     timekeeping_update().

> 
> We have two call sites:
> 
> timekeeping_resume()
> {
> 	.....
> 	if (sleeptime_injected)
> 		__timekeeping_inject_sleeptime(tk, &ts_delta);
> 	...
> 	timekeeping_update(tk, TK_MIRROR | TK_CLOCK_WAS_SET);
> 	...
> }
> 
> and
> 
> timekeeping_inject_sleeptime64()
> {
> 	__timekeeping_inject_sleeptime(tk, &delta);
> 	...
> 	timekeeping_update(tk, TK_CLEAR_NTP | TK_MIRROR | TK_CLOCK_WAS_SET);
> 	...
> }
> 
> But Gabriel talks about the effects from injecting sleep time in
> timekeeping_resume() because that's where we use
> read_persistent_clock64(). And there we don't clear NTP, unless there is
> some magic I'm missing completely.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 	tglx
> 
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-05 14:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-04 16:11 Extreme time jitter with suspend/resume cycles Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-04 18:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-04 23:10   ` Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-05  0:20     ` John Stultz
2017-10-05 16:46       ` Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-05 11:01     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-05 16:47       ` Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-05 18:01         ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-05 20:51           ` Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-05 21:04             ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-05 21:12               ` Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-05 21:33               ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-05  0:16 ` John Stultz
2017-10-05 11:05   ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-05 14:11     ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2017-10-05 11:08   ` Miroslav Lichvar
2017-10-05 20:14   ` Gabriel Beddingfield
2017-10-05 21:31     ` Thomas Gleixner
2017-10-15  6:39 ` Introduce clock precision to help time travelers was " Pavel Machek
2017-10-18 20:34   ` Alan Cox
2017-10-18 21:08     ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-18 21:26       ` Alexandre Belloni
2017-10-18 21:56         ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-04 15:34           ` Alexandre Belloni

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