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From: Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@linux.ibm.com>
To: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	Janis Schoetterl-Glausch <scgl@linux.ibm.com>,
	Janosch Frank <frankja@linux.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <hca@linux.ibm.com>,
	Vasily Gorbik <gor@linux.ibm.com>
Cc: David Hildenbrand <david@redhat.com>,
	Claudio Imbrenda <imbrenda@linux.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Gordeev <agordeev@linux.ibm.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v1 06/10] KVM: s390: Add vm IOCTL for key checked guest absolute memory access
Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2022 12:20:02 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6de14f3a-fd8a-49d4-3102-ca8f339d8728@linux.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <069c72b6-457f-65c7-652e-e6eca7235fca@redhat.com>



Am 20.01.22 um 11:38 schrieb Thomas Huth:
> On 18/01/2022 10.52, Janis Schoetterl-Glausch wrote:
>> Channel I/O honors storage keys and is performed on absolute memory.
>> For I/O emulation user space therefore needs to be able to do key
>> checked accesses.
>> The vm IOCTL supports read/write accesses, as well as checking
>> if an access would succeed.
> ...
>> diff --git a/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h b/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h
>> index e3f450b2f346..dd04170287fd 100644
>> --- a/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h
>> +++ b/include/uapi/linux/kvm.h
>> @@ -572,6 +572,8 @@ struct kvm_s390_mem_op {
>>   #define KVM_S390_MEMOP_LOGICAL_WRITE    1
>>   #define KVM_S390_MEMOP_SIDA_READ    2
>>   #define KVM_S390_MEMOP_SIDA_WRITE    3
>> +#define KVM_S390_MEMOP_ABSOLUTE_READ    4
>> +#define KVM_S390_MEMOP_ABSOLUTE_WRITE    5
> 
> Not quite sure about this - maybe it is, but at least I'd like to see this discussed: Do we really want to re-use the same ioctl layout for both, the VM and the VCPU file handles? Where the userspace developer has to know that the *_ABSOLUTE_* ops only work with VM handles, and the others only work with the VCPU handles? A CPU can also address absolute memory, so why not adding the *_ABSOLUTE_* ops there, too? And if we'd do that, wouldn't it be sufficient to have the VCPU ioctls only - or do you want to call these ioctls from spots in QEMU where you do not have a VCPU handle available? (I/O instructions are triggered from a CPU, so I'd assume that you should have a VCPU handle around?)

I paritally agree. the ABSOLUTE calls should also work from a VCPU handle. But you also want to be able to call this from a different thread than the vpcu threads as you do not want to kick a CPU out of the kernel just for that. So it makes sense to have this ioctl also for the VM fd.
> 
>   Thomas
> 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2022-01-20 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-01-18  9:52 [RFC PATCH v1 00/10] KVM: s390: Do storage key checking Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-18  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 01/10] s390/uaccess: Add storage key checked access to user memory Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-18 13:18   ` Janosch Frank
2022-01-18 15:37   ` Sven Schnelle
2022-01-18 15:52     ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-19  9:48   ` Heiko Carstens
2022-01-19 11:02     ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-19 13:20       ` Heiko Carstens
2022-01-20  8:34         ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-20 12:56           ` Heiko Carstens
2022-01-20 18:19             ` Heiko Carstens
2022-01-21  7:32               ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-01-21 11:04                 ` Heiko Carstens
2022-01-21 13:46                   ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-21 14:26                     ` Heiko Carstens
2022-01-24 10:38                       ` [RFC PATCH] uaccess: Add mechanism for " Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-24 17:41                         ` Heiko Carstens
2022-01-25 12:35                           ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-25 13:23                             ` Heiko Carstens
2022-01-18  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 02/10] KVM: s390: Honor storage keys when accessing guest memory Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-18 14:38   ` Janosch Frank
2022-01-20 10:27     ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-01-20 10:30       ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-19 19:27   ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-01-20  8:11     ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-20  8:50       ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-01-20  8:58         ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-20  9:06           ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-01-18  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 03/10] KVM: s390: handle_tprot: Honor storage keys Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-18  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 05/10] KVM: s390: Add optional storage key checking to MEMOP IOCTL Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-18 11:51   ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-01-18  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 06/10] KVM: s390: Add vm IOCTL for key checked guest absolute memory access Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-19 11:52   ` Thomas Huth
2022-01-19 12:46     ` Christian Borntraeger
2022-01-19 12:53       ` Thomas Huth
2022-01-19 13:17         ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-20 10:38   ` Thomas Huth
2022-01-20 11:20     ` Christian Borntraeger [this message]
2022-01-20 12:23     ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-25 12:00       ` Thomas Huth
2022-01-27 16:29         ` Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-27 17:34           ` Claudio Imbrenda
2022-01-18  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 07/10] KVM: s390: Rename existing vcpu memop functions Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-18  9:52 ` [RFC PATCH v1 09/10] KVM: s390: Add capability for storage key extension of MEM_OP IOCTL Janis Schoetterl-Glausch
2022-01-18 15:12   ` Christian Borntraeger

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