From: Andrzej Hajda <a.hajda@samsung.com>
To: Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>
Cc: "devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
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Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@ffwll.ch>,
sunil joshi <joshi@samsung.com>,
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<dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>,
Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>,
Ajay kumar <ajaynumb@gmail.com>,
Prashanth G <prashanth.g@samsung.com>,
Ajay Kumar <ajaykumar.rs@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V7 11/12] Documentation: bridge: Add documentation for ps8622 DT properties
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 09:11:17 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <54226E95.9000706@samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140923144127.GE5982@ulmo>
On 09/23/2014 04:41 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 12:34:54PM +0200, Andrzej Hajda wrote:
>> On 09/23/2014 12:10 PM, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 11:43:47AM +0200, Andrzej Hajda wrote:
>>>> On 09/23/2014 10:35 AM, Thierry Reding wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>>> But I agree that it would be nice to unify bridges and encoders more. It
>>>>> should be possible to make encoder always a bridge (or perhaps even
>>>>> replace encoders with bridges altogether). Then once you're out of the
>>>>> DRM device everything would be a bridge until you get to a panel.
>>>> I agree that some sort of unification of bridges, (slave) encoders is a good
>>>> thing, this way we stay only with bridges and panels as receivers.
>>>> But we will still have to deal with the code like:
>>>> if (on the other end of the link is panel)
>>>> do panel framework specific things
>>>> else
>>>> do bridge framework specific things
>>>>
>>>> The code in both branches usually does similar things but due to framework
>>>> differences it is difficult to merge.
>>> That's because they are inherently different entities. You can perform
>>> operations on a panel that don't make sense for a bridge and vice-versa.
>>>
>>>> Ideally it would be best to get rid of such constructs. For example by
>>>> trying to
>>>> make frameworks per interface type exposed by device (eg. video_sink) and
>>>> not by device type (drm_bridge, drm_panel).
>>> But then you loose all information about the real type of device.
>> Driver knows type of its device anyway. Why should it know device
>> type of devices it is connected to? It is enough it knows how to talk to
>> other device.
>> Like in real world, why desktop PC should know it is connected to DVI
>> monitor or to
>> DVI/HDMI converter which is connected to TV?
> TVs are much more standardized. There are things like DDC/CI which can
> be used to control the device. Or there's additional circuitry or
> control paths to change things like brightness. The same isn't true of
> panels.
But it is also true on HW level in case of display subsystem components -
If some device have output format X it means it can be connected to any
device
having input format X, whatever it is: panel, bridge, image enhancer...
>
>>> Or you
>>> have to create a common base class. And then you're still back to
>>> dealing with the two specific cases in many places, so the gain seems
>>> rather minimal.
>> For example RGB panel and RGB/??? bridge have the same hardware input
>> interface.
>> Why shall they have different representation in kernel?
> Because panels have different requirements than bridges. Panels for
> example require the backlight to be adjustable, bridges don't.
But I have asked about their input interface, RGB panel and RGB/???
bridge have the
same input interface.
In other words if instead of creating frameworks for each device type we
try to create framework
for functions/interfaces these device provides we should end up with
fewer frameworks and more clean code.
Regards
Andrzej
>
> Thierry
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2014-09-24 7:11 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-08-27 14:39 [PATCH V7 11/12] Documentation: bridge: Add documentation for ps8622 DT properties Ajay Kumar
2014-08-27 14:39 ` [PATCH V7 10/12] Documentation: devicetree: Add vendor prefix for parade Ajay Kumar
2014-08-27 14:39 ` [PATCH V7 09/12] Documentation: drm: bridge: move to video/bridge Ajay Kumar
2014-09-17 11:52 ` [PATCH V7 11/12] Documentation: bridge: Add documentation for ps8622 DT properties Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-17 14:29 ` Ajay kumar
2014-09-17 16:22 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-18 5:50 ` Ajay kumar
2014-09-19 12:54 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-19 13:59 ` Ajay kumar
2014-09-19 14:28 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-20 11:22 ` Ajay kumar
2014-09-20 15:27 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-09-22 6:00 ` Ajay kumar
2014-09-22 15:05 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-10-07 10:30 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-10-07 10:36 ` Ajay kumar
2014-10-07 14:49 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-08 7:09 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-10 13:03 ` Ajay kumar
2014-10-16 8:23 ` Ajay kumar
2014-10-16 9:04 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-28 9:12 ` Javier Martinez Canillas
2014-10-28 11:12 ` Ajay kumar
2014-09-22 8:26 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 14:42 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-23 5:53 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 8:41 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-23 9:28 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 11:15 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-23 14:29 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 15:25 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-22 8:10 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 8:31 ` Ajay kumar
2014-09-22 10:41 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 11:23 ` Ajay kumar
2014-09-22 11:35 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 12:12 ` Ajay kumar
2014-09-23 0:00 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-23 5:55 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 6:11 ` Ajay kumar
2014-09-23 6:28 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 11:47 ` DT property to selectively disable device features (was [PATCH V7 11/12] Documentation: bridge: Add documentation for ps8622 DT properties) Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-22 8:06 ` [PATCH V7 11/12] Documentation: bridge: Add documentation for ps8622 DT properties Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 14:23 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-23 6:04 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 7:24 ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-09-23 8:35 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 9:40 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-23 10:01 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 12:09 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-23 14:38 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 15:33 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-23 9:43 ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-09-23 10:10 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 10:34 ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-09-23 14:41 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-24 7:11 ` Andrzej Hajda [this message]
2014-09-24 8:27 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-23 11:33 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-23 8:54 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-23 9:39 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 11:31 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-23 14:45 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-24 8:42 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-10-06 14:40 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-07 7:06 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-10-07 7:23 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-10-07 8:25 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-10-07 16:14 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-22 7:54 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-22 14:04 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-23 6:21 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 9:30 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-23 9:53 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 11:12 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-23 14:50 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-23 12:00 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-23 14:58 ` Thierry Reding
2014-09-24 9:08 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-09-25 6:23 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-06 11:34 ` Tomi Valkeinen
2014-10-06 13:55 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-23 10:02 ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-09-23 10:02 ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-09-23 11:10 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-23 11:18 ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-09-23 11:23 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-23 11:47 ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-09-23 11:52 ` Laurent Pinchart
2014-09-23 12:40 ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-09-23 12:40 ` Andrzej Hajda
2014-09-23 14:49 ` Thierry Reding
2014-10-06 14:38 ` Laurent Pinchart
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