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From: "open_iscsi" <ESQuicksall_open_iscsi@Comcast.net>
To: Mike Christie <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>
Cc: open-iscsi@googlegroups.com,
	'SCSI Mailing List' <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] implement transport scan callout for iscsi
Date: Tue, 24 May 2005 20:25:27 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <000b01c560c0$42c59700$03031eac@ivivity.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 1116976678.7710.34.camel@mulgrave

The MC/S feature of iSCSI is not multi-pathing. Multi-pathing would be the 
use of multiple sessions to reach the same target. Generally the two 
sessions would use the same InitiatorName+ISID but use different Target 
Portal Groups at the target. In SCSI terms, it is the same initiator 
accessing different SCSI ports.

MC/S can be used to improve band width of a session without using 
multi-pathing and it belongs in the driver because it is hidden from the 
upper layers. Think of it like parallel wires, each carrying separate (but 
sequenced) commands in parallel.

Eddy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Bottomley" <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: "Mike Christie" <michaelc@cs.wisc.edu>
Cc: <open-iscsi@googlegroups.com>; "'SCSI Mailing List'" 
<linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC 2/2] implement transport scan callout for iscsi


>
> On Tue, 2005-05-24 at 14:01 -0700, Mike Christie wrote:
>> > It's a leading transport connection of the session1 (above). Quoting 
>> > the
>> > spec (http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc3720.html):
>> >
>> >    - According to [SAM2], the I_T nexus is a relationship
>> >      between a SCSI Initiator Port and a SCSI Target Port.  For iSCSI,
>> >      this relationship is a session, defined as a relationship between
>> >      an iSCSI Initiator's end of the session (SCSI Initiator Port) and
>> >      the iSCSI Target's Portal Group.
>> >
>> > The session itself is not a "physical connection"; it aggregates one or 
>> > more
>> > transport connections between a given SCSI Initiator Port and a SCSI 
>> > Target
>> > Port. There is always at least one (leading) connection.
>> >
>>
>> So just to be clear, open-iscsi can support multiple connections per
>> session. Do you want us to completely remove this feature for mainline?
>> I know you and christoph have given me this answer many times before,
>> but not seeing a reply to Nicholas's question about just disabling may
>> have created some doubt as to the extent people have to go? Since
>> open-iscsi pushed the connection management code to userspace, removing
>> MCS from the driver will not be too terrible a job for us though.
>>
>> The connection dir for single connection sessions though is just a nice
>> way to export the kernel structure's info and have it also reflect the
>> iSCSI RFC's definitions at the same time. For sfnet we used to throw
>> everything in one dir becuase it did not have a connection structure so
>> it simplified refcounting.
>
> My current position on MC/S is that it runs counter to the no multi-
> pathing in the drivers policy, so should not be done.
>
> As far as I can see it's an optional add on to the iSCSI standard which
> doesn't improve the feature set or provide any value add over the
> mandatory explicit multi-path support in rfc3720, which is easy to do
> via dm-multipath.
>
> James
>
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2005-05-25  0:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <42936441.0b798bab.39a4.ffff9774SMTPIN_ADDED@mx.googlegroups.com>
2005-05-24 21:01 ` [PATCH RFC 2/2] implement transport scan callout for iscsi Mike Christie
2005-05-24 23:17   ` James Bottomley
2005-05-25  0:25     ` open_iscsi [this message]
2005-05-25  1:00       ` James Bottomley
2005-05-25  1:28         ` open_iscsi
2005-05-25  5:22           ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-25 12:55             ` open_iscsi
2005-05-25 13:00           ` Ming Zhang
2005-05-25 13:08             ` open_iscsi
2005-05-25 15:18         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-05-25 18:04           ` James Bottomley
2005-05-25 18:32             ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-25 19:42               ` James Bottomley
2005-05-26  1:38             ` open_iscsi
2005-05-25  2:20 open_iscsi
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-05-21 21:39 Mike Christie
2005-05-24 17:09 ` James Bottomley

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