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From: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>
To: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
Cc: Omar Sandoval <osandov@osandov.com>,
	linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	dm-devel@redhat.com, Bart Van Assche <bart.vanassche@sandisk.com>,
	Laurence Oberman <loberman@redhat.com>,
	Paolo Valente <paolo.valente@linaro.org>,
	Oleksandr Natalenko <oleksandr@natalenko.name>,
	Tom Nguyen <tom81094@gmail.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	Omar Sandoval <osandov@fb.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V6 4/5] blk-mq-sched: improve dispatching from sw queue
Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:24:50 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <09c0e4d1-3bf8-f847-023f-de83c5d22f73@kernel.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171012152240.GA9275@ming.t460p>

On 10/12/2017 09:22 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 08:52:12AM -0600, Jens Axboe wrote:
>> On 10/12/2017 04:01 AM, Ming Lei wrote:
>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 11:23:45AM -0700, Omar Sandoval wrote:
>>>> On Mon, Oct 09, 2017 at 07:24:23PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
>>>>> SCSI devices use host-wide tagset, and the shared driver tag space is
>>>>> often quite big. Meantime there is also queue depth for each lun(
>>>>> .cmd_per_lun), which is often small, for example, on both lpfc and
>>>>> qla2xxx, .cmd_per_lun is just 3.
>>>>>
>>>>> So lots of requests may stay in sw queue, and we always flush all
>>>>> belonging to same hw queue and dispatch them all to driver, unfortunately
>>>>> it is easy to cause queue busy because of the small .cmd_per_lun.
>>>>> Once these requests are flushed out, they have to stay in hctx->dispatch,
>>>>> and no bio merge can participate into these requests, and sequential IO
>>>>> performance is hurt a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> This patch introduces blk_mq_dequeue_from_ctx for dequeuing request from
>>>>> sw queue so that we can dispatch them in scheduler's way, then we can
>>>>> avoid to dequeue too many requests from sw queue when ->dispatch isn't
>>>>> flushed completely.
>>>>>
>>>>> This patch improves dispatching from sw queue when there is per-request-queue
>>>>> queue depth by taking request one by one from sw queue, just like the way
>>>>> of IO scheduler.
>>>>
>>>> This still didn't address Jens' concern about using q->queue_depth as
>>>> the heuristic for whether to do the full sw queue flush or one-by-one
>>>> dispatch. The EWMA approach is a bit too complex for now, can you please
>>>> try the heuristic of whether the driver ever returned BLK_STS_RESOURCE?
>>>
>>> That can be done easily, but I am not sure if it is good.
>>>
>>> For example, inside queue rq path of NVMe, kmalloc(GFP_ATOMIC) is
>>> often used, if kmalloc() returns NULL just once, BLK_STS_RESOURCE
>>> will be returned to blk-mq, then blk-mq will never do full sw
>>> queue flush even when kmalloc() always succeed from that time
>>> on.
>>
>> Have it be a bit more than a single bit, then. Reset it every x IOs or
>> something like that, that'll be more representative of transient busy
>> conditions anyway.
> 
> OK, that can be done via a simplified EWMA by considering
> the dispatch result only.

Yes, if it's kept simple enough, then that would be fine. I'm not totally
against EWMA, I just don't want to have any of this over-engineered.
Especially not when it's a pretty simple thing, we don't care about
averages, basically only if we ever see BLK_STS_RESOURCE in any kind
of recurring fashion.

-- 
Jens Axboe

  reply	other threads:[~2017-10-12 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-10-09 11:24 [PATCH V6 0/5] blk-mq-sched: improve sequential I/O performance Ming Lei
2017-10-09 11:24 ` [PATCH V6 1/5] blk-mq-sched: fix scheduler bad performance Ming Lei
2017-10-10 18:10   ` Omar Sandoval
2017-10-09 11:24 ` [PATCH V6 2/5] blk-mq-sched: move actual dispatching into one helper Ming Lei
2017-10-09 11:24 ` [PATCH V6 3/5] sbitmap: introduce __sbitmap_for_each_set() Ming Lei
2017-10-10 18:15   ` Omar Sandoval
2017-10-09 11:24 ` [PATCH V6 4/5] blk-mq-sched: improve dispatching from sw queue Ming Lei
2017-10-10 18:23   ` Omar Sandoval
2017-10-12 10:01     ` Ming Lei
2017-10-12 14:52       ` Jens Axboe
2017-10-12 15:22         ` Ming Lei
2017-10-12 15:24           ` Jens Axboe [this message]
2017-10-12 15:33       ` Bart Van Assche
2017-10-12 15:37         ` Jens Axboe
2017-10-12 15:49           ` Ming Lei
2017-10-09 11:24 ` [PATCH V6 5/5] blk-mq-sched: don't dequeue request until all in ->dispatch are flushed Ming Lei
2017-10-10 18:26   ` Omar Sandoval

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