From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben@splentec.com>
Cc: SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH / RFC] scsi_error handler update. (1/4)
Date: 17 Feb 2003 12:58:37 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1045504719.1749.77.camel@mulgrave> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3E5119EC.7080907@splentec.com>
On Mon, 2003-02-17 at 12:20, Luben Tuikov wrote:
> There is no ``locking hierarchy'' -- i.e. a lock *only* locks its list
> manipulation. So, you don't have to have a string of locks to change
> a scsi_command, for example.
If I want to loop over all outstanding commands on a device (say because
the FC has just got a LIP removal), how do I do it? Your design implies
I have to loop over all portals, targets and luns. To do this loop, I'd
have to stabilise all the lists by acquiring the three locks that
protect them, wouldn't I?
> When was the last time a SPI HBA set channel/bus to anything different
> than 0?
Channel is a special abstraction for the dual channel chips. It's
really an extension of host number for drivers that need a channel
decode. The mid-layer only uses it for the host reset function, since
resetting the host
> My Adaptec AIC-7899P dual channel, presents two hosts, not two channels.
> And this is the right behaviour.
The adaptec driver certainly uses the multiple channel feature, but only
if the AHC_TWIN flag is set in the host.
> > 3. I don't see where the mid-layer has a use for the data. By and
>
> Well, how can I contend *that* statement?... This basically means
> that the whole thing I proposed is cr*p.
This is the key issue. Complexity should only be introduced in a design
when it serves a justifiable purpose. How do the 4 layers you propose
simplify the design/improve the throughput or in any other way add
benefit over the two layers (host and device) that we already have?
Because the standards say so isn't enough. The Mid-layer's job is to
make efficient use of devices which follow the standards as simply and
elegantly as possible, not mirror the SCSI architecture model.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-02-17 17:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-02-11 8:13 [PATCH / RFC] scsi_error handler update. (1/4) Mike Anderson
2003-02-11 8:15 ` [PATCH / RFC] scsi_error handler update. (2/4) Mike Anderson
2003-02-11 8:17 ` [PATCH / RFC] scsi_error handler update. (3/4) Mike Anderson
2003-02-11 8:19 ` [PATCH / RFC] scsi_error handler update. (4/4) Mike Anderson
2003-02-11 22:38 ` [PATCH / RFC] scsi_error handler update. (3/4) James Bottomley
2003-02-12 7:16 ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-12 14:26 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-12 14:37 ` James Bottomley
2003-02-12 22:34 ` James Bottomley
2003-02-13 8:24 ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-11 16:49 ` [PATCH / RFC] scsi_error handler update. (1/4) Luben Tuikov
2003-02-11 17:22 ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-11 19:05 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-11 20:14 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-11 21:14 ` Mike Anderson
[not found] ` <3E495862.3050709@splentec.com>
2003-02-11 21:20 ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-11 21:22 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-11 22:41 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-12 20:10 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-12 20:46 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-12 21:23 ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-12 22:15 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-12 21:46 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-13 15:47 ` Christoph Hellwig
2003-02-13 18:55 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-14 0:24 ` Doug Ledford
2003-02-14 16:38 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-02-14 16:58 ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-14 18:50 ` Doug Ledford
2003-02-14 19:35 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-14 21:20 ` James Bottomley
2003-02-17 17:20 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-17 17:58 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2003-02-17 18:29 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-18 5:37 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-02-18 19:46 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-18 22:16 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-02-18 23:35 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-17 20:17 ` Doug Ledford
2003-02-17 20:19 ` Matthew Jacob
2003-02-17 21:12 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-17 17:35 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-14 21:27 ` James Bottomley
2003-02-17 17:28 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-02-16 4:23 ` Andre Hedrick
2003-02-11 18:00 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-02-11 18:44 ` Mike Anderson
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