From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Pat LaVarre Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: USB storage problems on OHCI.. Date: 29 Sep 2003 08:54:41 -0600 Sender: linux-scsi-owner@vger.kernel.org Message-ID: <1064847281.24854.2.camel@patehci2> References: <1064271322.4797.9.camel@patehci2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-path: Received: from email-out1.iomega.com ([147.178.1.82]:13019 "EHLO email.iomega.com") by vger.kernel.org with ESMTP id S263489AbTI2Oy0 (ORCPT ); Mon, 29 Sep 2003 10:54:26 -0400 In-Reply-To: <1064271322.4797.9.camel@patehci2> List-Id: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org To: linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org Cc: linux-usb-devel@vger.kernel.org, torvalds@osdl.org, mdharm-scsi@one-eyed-alien.net, stern@rowland.harvard.edu, hch@infradead.org, james.bottomley@steeleye.com, andries.brouwer@cwi.nl > From: Linus Torvalds > Date: 2003-09-23 15:46:21 > > Normal users consider hot-pluggable > to be "I can rip the thing out by hand". Yes. Meanwhile, much (all except flash?) actual usb-storage now commercially available is Not hot-pluggable in this sense. Instead, "ata hdd lose data in response to a pin 1 reset issued without op x35 "SYNCHRONIZE_CACHE". I've heard same of" writeable "dvd. And loss of bus power can kill any write cache in a drive, of course." Pat LaVarre