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From: Pat LaVarre <p.lavarre@ieee.org>
To: patmans@us.ibm.com
Cc: stern@rowland.harvard.edu, mdharm-scsi@one-eyed-alien.net,
	james.bottomley@steeleye.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
	usb-storage@one-eyed-alien.net, ronald@kuetemeier.com,
	dmitrik@users.sourceforge.net, idan@idanso.dyndns.org
Subject: Re: [usb-storage] Re: [PATCH] fix Sony USB mass storage - pass larger receive buffer
Date: 13 Nov 2003 11:37:09 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1068748629.16444.58.camel@patrh9> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1068747998.16444.35.camel@patrh9>

> > How about we blacklist all the bInterfaceSubClass that Windows does not
> > regard as generic.  I remember Windows does regard bInterfaceSubClass =
> > x06 as generic.  I think I remember there are two others.
> 
> grep -i generic
> in windows/inf/usbstor.inf yields, hex:
> 
> 08 02 50
> 08 05 50
> 08 06 50
> 
> How about we [guess] disk writable
> [without risking mode sense]
> if we do not find bInterfaceSubClass in
> the set x 02 05 06?

In short:

Or how about we only blacklist mode sense from devices that report
bInterfaceSubClass = any of the x07..FF Reserved codes?  Surely a device
sending us a formally Reserved code is a good first clue that it may not
behave robustly thereafter?  Or maybe we just blacklist mode sense from
bInterfaceSubClass = xFF FormallyReservedButInformallyVendorSpecific? 
Surely a device sending us that code is an even better first clue that
it may not behave robustly thereafter?

At length ...

usb.org --> Developers --> Documents --> USB Device Class Specifications
--> Approved yields:

http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs#approved

http://www.usb.org/developers/devclass_docs/usb_msc_overview_1.2.pdf

xpdf then shows, in page 6 of 7, "Table 2.1 - SubClass Codes Mapped to
Command Block Specifications"

x01..x06 = RBC SFF-CD/MMC QIC UFI SFF-FDD SCSI
x07..xFF = "Reserved for future use."

De facto practice says xFF = vendor-specific, by analogy with other
usb.org texts.

Blacklisting mode sense from all but 02 05 06, same as Windows, means
blacklisting all but QIC SFF-FDD SCSI.  Maybe uncomfortably aggressive.

> > Here we have bInterfaceSubClass = xFF ...
> > > That's this device TELLING US THIS DEVICE DOES NOT TALK SCSI.

By the way, kudos to Dmitri Katchalov for including USB descriptors in
the trace, rather than tracing only CDB's & data.

Pat LaVarre



  reply	other threads:[~2003-11-13 18:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-11-12 23:50 [PATCH] fix Sony USB mass storage - pass larger receive buffer Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13  0:09 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13  0:13   ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13  0:44     ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13  1:56       ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 14:54         ` [usb-storage] " Alan Stern
2003-11-13 16:21           ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 17:09             ` Alan Stern
2003-11-13 17:24               ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:04                 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13 18:15                   ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:22                     ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:26                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:37                         ` Pat LaVarre [this message]
2003-11-13 19:13                           ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 19:30                             ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 22:03                               ` Alan Stern
2003-11-13 23:40                                 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 23:51                                   ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-14  0:16                                     ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14  1:04                                   ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14  1:10                                     ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14  1:13                                       ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 22:01                 ` Alan Stern
2003-11-13 23:37                   ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14  0:24                     ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-14  1:54                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14  2:08                         ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14  2:24                           ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-17 21:38                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-17 22:00                         ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-17 23:36                           ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14  1:03                     ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 23:44                   ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14  0:13                     ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-14  0:55                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14  1:13                       ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14  2:02                         ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14  2:10                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14  2:19                         ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14  2:38                           ` [usb-storage] mode sense blacklist how Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14  2:44                             ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 17:27                               ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 17:57                                 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14  3:11                             ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-14 19:41                               ` Pat LaVarre
     [not found]                                 ` <20031114153607.A7207@beaverton.ibm.com>
     [not found]                                   ` <20031116121039.A13224@beaverton.ibm.com>
2003-11-17 20:14                                     ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-19 12:55                                 ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-19 16:34                                   ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-19 17:02                                   ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-19 23:34                                     ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-20 16:32                                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-21  1:17                                         ` SG_IO ioctl (was: mode sense blacklist how) Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-21  3:18                                           ` Willem Riede
2003-11-21 20:51                                           ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:07                                             ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:14                                               ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:31                                               ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:09                                             ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-21 21:29                                           ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-20 14:06                                     ` [usb-storage] mode sense blacklist how Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-20 15:57                                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14  1:06                     ` [usb-storage] Re: [PATCH] fix Sony USB mass storage - pass larger receive buffer Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 16:14                     ` Alan Stern
2003-11-14 17:29                       ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 17:50                       ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14  2:02 ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-14 21:45   ` [usb-storage] " Pat LaVarre
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-11-14  2:25 Andries.Brouwer

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