From: Pat LaVarre <p.lavarre@ieee.org>
To: mdharm-scsi@one-eyed-alien.net
Cc: patmans@us.ibm.com, stern@rowland.harvard.edu,
james.bottomley@steeleye.com, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org,
usb-storage@one-eyed-alien.net, ronald@kuetemeier.com,
dmitrik@users.sourceforge.net, idan@idanso.dyndns.org
Subject: Re: [usb-storage] Re: [PATCH] fix Sony USB mass storage - pass larger receive buffer
Date: 13 Nov 2003 12:30:32 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1068751832.16444.78.camel@patrh9> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20031113111344.B30194@one-eyed-alien.net>
> Our experience tells us that xFF is often used because designers are one of
> the following:
> (a) lazy
> (b) incompetient
Choosing to violate spec, certainly.
> (c) driven by marketing, which wants to load an .inf so their
> device seems 'special' (custom icons, etc.)
>
> So xFF doesn't really tell us, deterministically, anything at all.
Do we here agree violently?
bInterfaceSubClass = xFF tells us Windows does not speak to the device
with Microsoft's generic driver by default. That .inf we do not have in
Linux may then say to use the generic driver, or may say to use some
other driver.
> Knowing that the device is direct-access, however, implies very strongly
> that MODE_SENSE[_10] is a bad idea.
Anybody able to clue me in quickly as to why classifying a device as
writable or not, rather than a disc, can ever be meaningful?
Maybe guessing not writable helps only (in the vanishingly small corner
case) when a disc is write-protectable although Not removable without
also removing the drive?
Pat LaVarre
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-11-13 19:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-11-12 23:50 [PATCH] fix Sony USB mass storage - pass larger receive buffer Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13 0:09 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 0:13 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13 0:44 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13 1:56 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 14:54 ` [usb-storage] " Alan Stern
2003-11-13 16:21 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 17:09 ` Alan Stern
2003-11-13 17:24 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:04 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-13 18:15 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:22 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:26 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 18:37 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 19:13 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 19:30 ` Pat LaVarre [this message]
2003-11-13 22:03 ` Alan Stern
2003-11-13 23:40 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-13 23:51 ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-14 0:16 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:04 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 1:10 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:13 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 22:01 ` Alan Stern
2003-11-13 23:37 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 0:24 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-14 1:54 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:08 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 2:24 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-17 21:38 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-17 22:00 ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-11-17 23:36 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:03 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-13 23:44 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 0:13 ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-14 0:55 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:13 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 2:02 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:10 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:19 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 2:38 ` [usb-storage] mode sense blacklist how Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:44 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 17:27 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 17:57 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 3:11 ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-14 19:41 ` Pat LaVarre
[not found] ` <20031114153607.A7207@beaverton.ibm.com>
[not found] ` <20031116121039.A13224@beaverton.ibm.com>
2003-11-17 20:14 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-19 12:55 ` Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-19 16:34 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-19 17:02 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-19 23:34 ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-20 16:32 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-21 1:17 ` SG_IO ioctl (was: mode sense blacklist how) Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-21 3:18 ` Willem Riede
2003-11-21 20:51 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:07 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:14 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:31 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-28 17:09 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-21 21:29 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-20 14:06 ` [usb-storage] mode sense blacklist how Dmitri Katchalov
2003-11-20 15:57 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 1:06 ` [usb-storage] Re: [PATCH] fix Sony USB mass storage - pass larger receive buffer Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 16:14 ` Alan Stern
2003-11-14 17:29 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-11-14 17:50 ` Pat LaVarre
2003-11-14 2:02 ` Douglas Gilbert
2003-11-14 21:45 ` [usb-storage] " Pat LaVarre
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2003-11-14 2:25 Andries.Brouwer
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