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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
To: "Smart, James" <James.Smart@Emulex.com>
Cc: "Philip R. Auld" <pauld@egenera.com>,
	'Patrick Mansfield' <patmans@us.ibm.com>,
	Simon Kelley <simon@thekelleys.org.uk>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	dm-devel@sistina.com
Subject: RE: Is there a grand plan for FC failover?
Date: 29 Jan 2004 13:31:20 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1075401081.2426.98.camel@mulgrave> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3356669BBE90C448AD4645C843E2BF2802C013BE@xbl.ma.emulex.com>

On Thu, 2004-01-29 at 12:35, Smart, James wrote:
> Why do you imply that you're down to a single path ? With multiple port
> devices, and the T10 unclarity on multiport support, simple reservations
> didn't bring you down to the single port access you are describing. Some
> devices may have implemented it this way, but the standard didn't say they
> had to or even that they should.

T10 implies SCSI-2 reservations protect single paths.  Any multi-port
SCSI-2 reservation implementations tend to be vendor specific.  That's a
nasty I don't think we want to get into.

> And this picture changes significantly with the use of Persistent
> Reservations and the use of keys.

That's the point, it doesn't.  T10 clarified the persistent reservation
holder (5.6.2.6 in rev 16) so that it's a specific I_T nexus (which is
effectively a specific path unless you have fabric redundancy) except
for all registrant reservations (which aren't useful for clustering).

Obviously, this seems to require that the reservation be held against
everyone when the port switches, which would preclude doing user level
reservation handling, hence the need for a separate ownership API
(assuming all vendors get on the same page about this).

James



  parent reply	other threads:[~2004-01-29 18:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-29 17:35 Is there a grand plan for FC failover? Smart, James
2004-01-29 18:31 ` Mike Anderson
2004-01-29 18:31 ` James Bottomley [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2004-01-29 19:37 Smart, James
2004-01-29 18:41 Smart, James
2004-01-28 21:02 Smart, James
2004-01-28 22:16 ` James Bottomley
2004-01-29 14:49   ` Philip R. Auld
2004-01-29 15:05     ` James Bottomley
2004-01-26 14:18 Simon Kelley
2004-01-26 15:37 ` James Bottomley
2004-01-28 15:02   ` Philip R. Auld
2004-01-28 16:57     ` James Bottomley
2004-01-28 18:00       ` Philip R. Auld
2004-01-28 20:47         ` Patrick Mansfield
2004-01-28 22:14           ` James Bottomley
2004-01-29  0:55             ` Patrick Mansfield
2004-01-28 22:37         ` Mike Christie
2004-01-29 15:24           ` Philip R. Auld
2004-01-29 16:00             ` James Bottomley
2004-01-29 23:25               ` Mike Christie

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