From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
To: "Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>
Cc: SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix aic7xxx del_timer_sync() deadlock
Date: 29 Feb 2004 15:25:00 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1078089901.1756.79.camel@mulgrave> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <154922704.1078082802@aslan.btc.adaptec.com>
On Sun, 2004-02-29 at 13:26, Justin T. Gibbs wrote:
> While it is certainly possible to move domain validation into the mid-layer
> and remove it from LLDs, I doubt that is the type of change you want to
> include in 2.6. It would require at minimum:
Well, possibly not, but it's certainly something to begin thinking about
now.
> 1) A generic method for fetching and changing the transport parameters for
> devices attached to LLDs.
That's what the embryonic transport classes will become for SPI and when
they finally have this capability, then I'll try to put domain
validation into them.
> 2) A generic method for freezing the execution queue and "single-stepping"
> things like domain validation and error recovery commands.
We have that all ready in the mid-layer as part of error recovery. This
would simply be an extension for domain validation.
> 3) A way to wait for the active count on a device or target (including all
> luns) to drop to 0.
That too is done in error recovery (admittedly at the host level rather
than the device level).
> Don't get me wrong. One of my main complaints of the Linux SCSI layer is
> its intrinsic lack of consistency. In my opinion, the code path for sending
> commands to and processing the results from a LLD should be identical
> regardless of whether the commands are from error recovery, domain validation,
> a peripheral driver, or the probe code. Instead we only get certain behavior
> (like a bus settle delay) for some clients and not others. Fixing this
> would allow the behavior to be defined in one place and these "workarounds"
> could be removed from the LLDs. Unfortunately, the LLDs are the only "code
> path" common to all of the clients of the mid-layer, so you wind up with the
> LLDs enforcing correct behavior.
Well, I haven't claimed SCSI to be anything more than a work in
progress. I do, however, think it is in better shape than it was a
couple of years ago. What I really need is for people actually to try
out the mid-layer code where they would have worked around it in 2.4.
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2004-02-29 21:25 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2004-02-27 18:26 [PATCH] Fix aic7xxx del_timer_sync() deadlock James Bottomley
2004-02-27 19:23 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-02-27 19:34 ` James Bottomley
2004-02-27 20:50 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-02-28 15:39 ` James Bottomley
2004-02-29 19:26 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-02-29 21:10 ` James Bottomley
2004-02-29 22:23 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-02-29 21:25 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2004-02-28 2:40 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-28 9:25 ` Jens Axboe
2004-02-28 23:50 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-29 9:13 ` Jens Axboe
2004-02-29 16:21 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-29 16:39 ` Jens Axboe
2004-02-29 17:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-29 17:55 ` Jens Axboe
2004-02-29 18:57 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-02-29 19:00 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-29 19:28 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-02-29 19:37 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-29 19:42 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2004-02-29 19:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-29 20:06 ` Jens Axboe
2004-02-29 20:20 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-29 20:27 ` Jens Axboe
2004-02-29 20:28 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-29 19:43 ` Jeff Garzik
2004-02-29 20:04 ` Jens Axboe
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