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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.org>
Cc: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	Mike Anderson <andmike@us.ibm.com>, Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	greg@kroah.com, Jens Axboe <axboe@suse.de>,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: bug 2400
Date: 06 Apr 2004 09:03:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1081260215.1804.17.camel@mulgrave> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200404060852.34169.oliver@neukum.org>

On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 01:52, Oliver Neukum wrote:
> Pure refcounting can never protect you against races with freeing objects.
> The counters themselves must be protected. Try as you might you need
> locks for that and rules on how this locks are to be used.

Which part of

On Mon, 2004-04-05 at 20:19, James Bottomley wrote:
> Now, if the subsystem is going to garbage collect its own object as a
> result of the other object disconnect, then it is responsible for
> synchronising that with reference gets on its own object.  However, that
> is easily achievable via *intra* subsystem synchronisation.

didn't you understand?

However, how a subsystem resolves this intra subsystem synchronisation
is up to it ... and it doesn't have to do it with locks.  So there are
no exposed locks for this and no rules therefore, for how to use them.

James



  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-06 14:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-01 21:15 bug 2400 Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 21:52 ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-01 22:08   ` Andrew Morton
2004-04-01 22:48     ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-01 22:40   ` James Bottomley
2004-04-01 22:53     ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-01 23:07 ` Matthew Dharm
2004-04-01 23:32 ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02  0:29   ` Steven Dake
2004-04-02  8:43   ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-02 15:57     ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02 16:45       ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-02 17:05         ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02 17:44           ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-02 18:13             ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02 23:40               ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-03  0:25                 ` James Bottomley
2004-04-04  1:40                   ` Alan Stern
2004-04-04 15:23                     ` James Bottomley
2004-04-04 16:46                       ` Alan Stern
2004-04-04 17:04                         ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05  3:17                           ` Alan Stern
2004-04-05 14:59                             ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-05 21:27                             ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06 14:00                               ` Alan Stern
2004-04-05 22:10                             ` Patrick Mansfield
2004-04-06 14:10                               ` Alan Stern
2004-04-08 14:09                               ` Alan Stern
2004-04-08 16:24                                 ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-08 18:33                                   ` Alan Stern
2004-04-08 19:44                                     ` Matt Gulick
2004-04-05 13:30                           ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2004-04-04 18:16                       ` David Brownell
2004-04-04 18:42                         ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05  3:54                           ` David Brownell
2004-04-05 21:44                             ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05 23:23                               ` [linux-usb-devel] " David Brownell
2004-04-06  1:19                                 ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06  6:52                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2004-04-06 14:03                                     ` James Bottomley [this message]
2004-04-07  9:19                                       ` Oliver.Neukum
2004-04-06 15:10                                   ` David Brownell
2004-04-06 15:47                                     ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06 16:16                                       ` David Brownell
2004-04-06 16:55                                       ` Alan Stern
2004-04-06 17:13                                         ` James Bottomley
2004-04-02 23:36   ` James Bottomley
2004-04-03  0:11     ` Mike Anderson
2004-04-03  0:16       ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05  4:33     ` Patrick Mansfield
2004-04-05 14:09       ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05 21:07       ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06  9:22         ` Jens Axboe
2004-04-06 13:56           ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06 14:04             ` Jens Axboe
2004-04-06 14:09               ` James Bottomley
2004-04-08 23:06         ` Greg KH
2004-04-09 11:28           ` James Bottomley
2004-04-05 14:03     ` Jens Axboe
2004-04-05 21:08       ` James Bottomley
2004-04-06  9:22         ` Jens Axboe

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