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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: How to add/drop SCSI drives from within the driver?
Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 14:41:34 +0000
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On Iau, 2004-12-16 at 09:54, Arjan van de Ven wrote:
> I'm strongly against adding this. The reason for that is that once an
> ioctl is added, it realistically will and can never go away.
> LSI is free to have their own fork and give that to dell; but they
> should and could have known that it wasn't going to fly. (same I guess
> for adaptec ioctls). The companies who then commit to some schedule
> realize they take a huge risk, but that is no reason to foul up the
> kernel more. 

I agree. I'd like to see an agreed standard interface for dropping and
managing physical volumes and drives, as well as a standard interface
for dropping/managing logical volumes.