From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: Guennadi Liakhovetski <g.liakhovetski@gmx.de>
Cc: Sander <sander@humilis.net>,
David Hollis <dhollis@davehollis.com>,
Maciej Soltysiak <solt2@dns.toxicfilms.tv>,
Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Re[2]: ata over ethernet question
Date: Thu, 12 May 2005 14:52:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1115923927.5042.18.camel@mulgrave> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.60.0505102352430.9008@poirot.grange>
On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 00:00 +0200, Guennadi Liakhovetski wrote:
> A follow up question - I recently used nbd to access a CD-ROM. It worked
> nice, but, I had to read in 7 CDs, so, each time I had to replace a CD, I
> had to stop the client, the server, then replace the CD, re-start the
> server, re-start the client... I thought about extending NBD to (better)
> support removable media, but then you start thinking about all those
> features that your local block device has that don't get exported over
> NBD...
That's correct; NBD is basically just a remote data pipe type block
device. It doesn't understand arbitrary packet commands.
> Now, my understanding (sorry, without looking at any docs - yet) is, that
> iSCSI is (or at least should be) free from these limitations. So, does it
> make any sense at all extending NBD or just switch to iSCSI? Should NBD be
> just kept simple as it is or would it be completely superseeded by iSCSI,
> or is there still something that NBD does that iSCSI wouldn't (easily) do?
Caveat: I've done quite a bit of work on nbd, so I'm biased. However,
for what it does, nbd is extremely small, simple and efficient, so I
think we'd want a hole in our head to replace it with something as
complex and bloated as iSCSI---remember we'd need both a target and an
initiator to do what nbd does today.
However, there is room for improvement in nbd, notably the handling of
packet commands, which looks to be eminently doable in the current
infrastructure (this would basically make nbd a replicator for the linux
block system, and would probably necessitate some client side changes to
achieve). If you have any thoughts in this direction, you could drop an
email to the maintainer.
James
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2005-05-10 22:00 ` Re[2]: ata over ethernet question Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-10 23:14 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-11 5:42 ` [Iscsitarget-devel] " FUJITA Tomonori
2005-05-11 8:56 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-05-11 21:26 ` several messages Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-12 2:16 ` Ming Zhang
2005-05-12 18:32 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-13 8:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-13 15:04 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-13 15:07 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-13 15:38 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-12 10:17 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-05-12 19:42 ` SCSI/ISCSI, hardware/software Bryan Henderson
2005-05-13 4:55 ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-05-13 10:34 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2005-05-13 23:58 ` Bryan Henderson
2005-05-12 18:52 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2005-05-12 19:05 ` Re[2]: ata over ethernet question Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-12 19:15 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-12 19:44 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-13 8:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-13 16:18 ` Dmitry Yusupov
2005-05-13 8:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-05-13 18:50 ` iSCSI vs. NBD (was Re: ata over ethernet question) Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-13 20:21 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-13 22:49 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-25 23:41 ` NBD (vs. iSCSI vs. EATA vs...) Guennadi Liakhovetski
2005-05-26 1:19 ` James Bottomley
2005-05-26 17:48 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
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