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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: brking@us.ibm.com
Cc: SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>, haren@us.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] ipr: Fix for adapter shutdown issue
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 11:44:59 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1118853899.5045.39.camel@mulgrave> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <42B05330.7050406@us.ibm.com>

On Wed, 2005-06-15 at 11:11 -0500, Brian King wrote:
> System crash and controlled power off are two different things. Yes, if the
> adapter is not told about the shutdown so it can flush its cache, the
> data will be maintained, but it can only be maintained for as long as
> the battery lasts. Currently, with 2.6.12-rc, if you do a normal power off
> and leave the system powered off for a long enough period of time (usually
> a week or so, depending on the battery on the card), you will suffer data
> loss. This is not acceptable. With 2.6.11, the adapter is told to flush
> the write cache on a controlled power off, so the system can remain powered
> off indefinitely with no data loss.
> 
> Regarding supporting the sync cache command to a disk array, I did consider
> requesting support be added to the adapter microcode, but decided against it
> since it would make a RAID array perform horribly and it did not seem to be
> the appropriate model to follow for NV write cache. Some of the ipr adapters
> have over 500 MB of write cache, which can take an awful long time to flush,
> much longer than you would want for a journal barrier. So, all the barrier/
> SYNC_CACHE code works great for a volatile write cache on a disk, but
> doesn't necessarily seem like the best model for large non-volatile write
> caches for RAID adapters.

Well, I still think you're operating unsafely ... some people let these
batteries run out, you know ...

To fix this, add a

blk_queue_ordered(sdev->request_queue, QUEUE_ORDERED_NONE);

to the slave configure routine for each of the devices that doesn't
synchronize the cache.  That should correct the SCSI layer assumptions.

James



  reply	other threads:[~2005-06-15 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-06-15 15:15 [PATCH 1/1] ipr: Fix for adapter shutdown issue brking
2005-06-15 15:17 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-06-15 16:01   ` Greg KH
2005-06-15 16:14     ` Brian King
2005-06-15 15:28 ` James Bottomley
2005-06-15 15:34   ` Brian King
2005-06-15 15:47     ` James Bottomley
2005-06-15 16:11       ` Brian King
2005-06-15 16:44         ` James Bottomley [this message]
2005-06-15 17:05           ` Patrick Mansfield
2005-06-15 17:23             ` James Bottomley
2005-06-16 12:00               ` Jens Axboe

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