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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Luben Tuikov <luben_tuikov@adaptec.com>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>,
	ak@muc.de, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2.6.13 14/14] sas-class: SCSI Host glue
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:55:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1126547718.30449.79.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4325B6E3.9090503@adaptec.com>

On Llu, 2005-09-12 at 13:12 -0400, Luben Tuikov wrote:
> > But my point was that we already have a mechanism for coping with this:
> > The scsi template parameterises some of these things (max sector size,
> > sg table elements, clustering, etc).
> 
> James, people have _already_ replied to your point, saying
> that they want to start with a _clean_ hardware model/interface.
> See Alan and Andi's emails.

There is a difference between worrying about stuff later and not
supporting existing things people expect to work.

> It is time SCSI Core started cleanly, especially now with SAS
> which will completely *replace* Parallel SCSI and IDE (for SATA).

You have to get from here to there, and do so without breaking anything
or making it untestable on the way. Going around the scsi limits rather
than fixing the current weaknesses may or may not be the right way but
it needs to occur in logical steps.

Alan

  reply	other threads:[~2005-09-12 17:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-09-09 19:42 [PATCH 2.6.13 14/14] sas-class: SCSI Host glue Luben Tuikov
2005-09-09 23:35 ` James Bottomley
2005-09-10  4:12   ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-10 13:08     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-09-12 13:55       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 14:13         ` Jörn Engel
2005-09-12 18:46           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 18:46       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-10 14:30     ` Rik van Riel
2005-09-10 20:20       ` Alan Cox
2005-09-11  9:40         ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-13 12:41           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-11  3:56       ` ak
2005-09-11 13:41         ` James Bottomley
2005-09-12 17:12           ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 17:55             ` Alan Cox [this message]
2005-09-12 13:56       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-11  9:38     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-12 16:08       ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-09-12 19:07         ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-12 19:55           ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-09-12 23:51             ` Stefan Richter
2005-09-12 22:00       ` Luben Tuikov
2005-09-13 15:40         ` Matthew Wilcox
2005-09-14  5:56           ` Sergey Panov
2005-09-14 10:37             ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-09-14 10:53             ` Jeff Garzik
2005-09-14 12:59               ` Luben Tuikov

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