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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: dougg@torque.net
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] procfs support for sgiwd93
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 17:40:33 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1129758034.9618.14.camel@mulgrave> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43538988.3000204@torque.net>

On Mon, 2005-10-17 at 21:22 +1000, Douglas Gilbert wrote: 
> Is there any such policy?

Yes, there is.  It's not actually mine, it's the direction coming out of
several kernel summits.  /proc is to be moved back to handling process
information. /sys should be used for other ancillary information
exporting.

This policy can be interpreted with some elasticity depending on what an
author wants to do.

> Christoph Hellwig previously has used this purported policy
> to reject scsi procfs bug fixes:
> "[PATCH] scsi: /proc/scsi/scsi patch for large number of devices"
> As for alternate tools to 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi', I
> am not aware of many distributions using lsscsi (debian
> and gentoo do), perhaps there are other tools. I
> suspect a lot of folks are still using 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi'.

/proc/scsi/scsi has an awful lot of failure cases.  The most annoying
one seems to be periodically losing hot added devices.

The reason for not fixing something if it's not a severe bug is simply
that if we keep /proc/scsi/scsi fully functional and up to date, then
the distributions will have no incentive to move away from it.

> Does Christoph Hellwig have the right to NACK/veto
> etc work that is not his when you are the SCSI maintainer?

Technically no-one truly gets a veto since there are many ways code can
end up in the vanilla kernel; however, everyone gets to express their
opinion ...

James



  reply	other threads:[~2005-10-19 21:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-10-15  1:38 [PATCH] procfs support for sgiwd93 Ralf Baechle
2005-10-17 10:19 ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-17 10:55   ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-10-17 11:25     ` Arjan van de Ven
2005-10-17 10:43 ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-17 10:47   ` Ralf Baechle
2005-10-17 10:49     ` Christoph Hellwig
2005-10-17 11:22   ` Douglas Gilbert
2005-10-19 21:40     ` James Bottomley [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2005-10-20 18:04 Ralf Baechle

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