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From: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com, Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	virtualization@lists.osdl.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Chris Wright <chrisw@sous-sol.org>,
	Ian Pratt <ian.pratt@xensource.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 35/35] Add Xen virtual block device driver.
Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:03:11 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1143280992.8228.12.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1143215728.18986.15.camel@localhost.localdomain>

On Fri, 2006-03-24 at 15:55 +0000, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Gwe, 2006-03-24 at 07:38 -0500, Jeff Garzik wrote:
> > > A pure SCSI abstraction doesn't allow for shared head scheduling which
> > > you will need to scale Xen sanely on typical PC boxes.
> > 
> > Not true at all.  If you can do it with a block device, you can do it 
> > with a SCSI block device.
> 
> I don't believe this is true. The complexity of expressing sequences of
> command ordering between virtual machines acting in a co-operative but
> secure manner isn't as far as I can see expressable sanely in SCSI TCQ

I thought usb_scsi taught us that SCSI was overkill for a block
abstraction?  I have a much simpler Xen block-device implementation
which seems to perform OK, and is a lot less LOC than the in-tree one,
so I don't think the "SCSI would be better than what's there" (while
possibly true) is valid.

Cheers!
Rusty.
-- 
 ccontrol: http://ozlabs.org/~rusty/ccontrol

  reply	other threads:[~2006-03-25 10:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <A95E2296287EAD4EB592B5DEEFCE0E9D4B9E8A@liverpoolst.ad.cl.cam.ac.uk>
2006-03-22 23:09 ` [RFC PATCH 35/35] Add Xen virtual block device driver Jeff Garzik
2006-03-24 12:17   ` Alan Cox
2006-03-24 12:38     ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-24 13:37       ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-24 13:40         ` Arjan van de Ven
2006-03-24 13:50           ` Jeff Garzik
2006-03-24 15:33             ` Dave C Boutcher
2006-03-24 19:04               ` Mike Christie
2006-03-24 19:19                 ` Dave C Boutcher
2006-03-25  0:32                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2006-03-25  0:47                   ` Roland Dreier
2006-03-24 15:55       ` Alan Cox
2006-03-25 10:03         ` Rusty Russell [this message]
2006-03-27 10:14   ` Peter Chubb

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