From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
Cc: ltuikov@yahoo.com, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
Swen Schillig <swen@vnet.ibm.com>,
Mike Anderson <andmike@us.ibm.com>,
Christof Schmitt <christof.schmitt@de.ibm.com>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] zfcp: Report FCP LUN to SCSI midlayer
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 09:20:14 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1182867615.3562.3.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4680EDFE.4050808@s5r6.in-berlin.de>
On Tue, 2007-06-26 at 12:44 +0200, Stefan Richter wrote:
> Luben Tuikov wrote:
> > --- Stefan Richter <stefanr@s5r6.in-berlin.de> wrote:
> >> Do all these transports use the same *name* for the attribute holding
> >> the target port identifier's?
> >
> > Sure, it is "tpid".
>
> In mainline's transport classes? Or/and in your stack? OK, I'm lazy, I
> should look into the source.
It's currently port_name and port_id in the FC transport.
> >> In other words, is userspace able to find
> >> the target port identifier without knowing which transport is at work?
> >
> > How can that be? The target port identifier is by definition
> > a transport property?
>
> Target Port Identifier is a property of targets.
>
> Only /how its value looks like/ depends on transport protocols. Doesn't it?
Which is why it's obtained by the transport class
> So let's put the can always in the same shelf, regardless of the flavor
> of the soup in the can.
And why it's placed in the target directory.
> (That's really why I joined the discussion. We already have all
> userspace requirements covered in sbp2, regarding which properties to
> expose how. Except that we do it in sbp2's own place rather than a
> place common to all transport layer implementations.)
>
> > "Userspace" which you have in mind will be more interested in the
> > device name and other ID properties as returned by the INQUIRY
> > facilities. Some are transport specific some are not.
> >
> > Either way userspace can follow a pointer from the sysfs device
> > entry to the transport, just as sg-utils and lsscsi does now for
> > the SAS Stack (my version of it at least).
>
> As a side note: What I said was because I'm a lot SBP-2/3 biased and
> didn't deal with other transports myself yet. In SBP-2/3 we are only
> interested in LUs, we are interested in the concatenation of TPI and LUN
> for worldwide unique persistent identification of LUs, we get both from
> IEEE 1212 facilities, and SPC support is not so extensive.
>
> >> Regarding the TPID: The /how/ should be left to the transport layer
> >> implementation; but the /where/ should be uniform in all transports.
> >
> > This maybe hard to do since the structure of the domain is different
> > for different protocols.
> >
> > Of course this can be hacked by using symlinks...
>
> If there are going to be sysfs representations of targets, i.e. target
> devices, can't we express the target--LU relationships as parent device
> relationships? Could also be grand-(grand-)parent device relationships.
>
> If neither is possible with some transports, then we indeed have to
> resort to explicit attributes, e.g. symlinks.
OK, you've lost me ... this is our current sysfs representation of a
disk:
/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1f.1/host0/target0:0:0/0:0:0:0
target0:0:0 is what I think of as the target ... is that different from
what you're asking for?
James
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-06-26 14:20 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-06-19 8:25 [PATCH] zfcp: Report FCP LUN to SCSI midlayer Swen Schillig
2007-06-19 8:28 ` Hannes Reinecke
2007-06-19 12:19 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-19 17:12 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-06-20 2:46 ` James Bottomley
2007-06-21 15:03 ` Christof Schmitt
2007-06-21 16:46 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-21 16:54 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-22 1:41 ` James Bottomley
2007-06-22 19:01 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-21 20:58 ` James Bottomley
2007-06-22 4:40 ` Mike Anderson
2007-06-22 11:34 ` Christof Schmitt
2007-06-22 14:11 ` James Bottomley
2007-06-22 16:16 ` Doug Maxey
2007-06-25 20:43 ` Luben Tuikov
2007-06-25 22:53 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-25 10:39 ` Swen Schillig
2007-06-25 14:03 ` Hannes Reinecke
2007-06-25 18:57 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-25 21:27 ` Luben Tuikov
2007-06-25 21:55 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-26 0:35 ` Luben Tuikov
2007-06-26 21:29 ` Matthew Wilcox
2007-06-25 21:48 ` James Bottomley
2007-06-25 22:27 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-26 1:04 ` Luben Tuikov
2007-06-26 10:44 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-26 14:20 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2007-06-26 15:47 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-26 17:01 ` James Bottomley
2007-06-27 0:27 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-27 0:45 ` [PATCH] SCSI: delete outdated comment in API reference Stefan Richter
2007-06-26 0:49 ` [PATCH] zfcp: Report FCP LUN to SCSI midlayer Luben Tuikov
2007-06-26 9:38 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-27 10:27 ` Swen Schillig
2007-06-28 4:21 ` Luben Tuikov
2007-06-28 15:40 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-30 19:07 ` Luben Tuikov
2007-06-30 21:26 ` Stefan Richter
2007-07-01 6:27 ` Luben Tuikov
2007-07-01 11:07 ` Stefan Richter
2007-06-25 20:32 ` Luben Tuikov
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