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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-scsi <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PATCH] scsi bug fixes for 2.6.23-rc2
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2007 09:31:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1186497106.3414.24.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.0.999.0708062059030.5037@woody.linux-foundation.org>

On Mon, 2007-08-06 at 21:01 -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 6 Aug 2007, James Bottomley wrote:
> >
> > Confused ... you did get the first pull request in the first week.
> 
> Here's the problem. Let me repeat it again:
> 
> > > And after -rc1, I don't want to see crap like this:
> > > 
> > > 	 46 files changed, 2837 insertions(+), 2050 deletions(-)
> 
> It DOES NOT MATTER if I get a first pull request in the first week, if 
> that pull request is purely cosmetic, and is followed by stuff that 
> *should* have been in the merge window four weeks afterwards.
> 
> > OK ... that's arguable.
> 
> There's nothing arguable at all about it.
> 
> If you have 5000 lines of changes, that's not a "bugfix" any more. That's 
> a big damn change, and it should have happened in the merge window. Or if 
> it doesn't make it in time, in the *next* merge window.

I'm not arguing that the bug fix piece wasn't too big (although
realistically, line counts are only a guide not a rule.  If we discover
something like a calling convention bug in SCSI [reversed kmalloc
arguments, say], I could see a huge patch to fix all of the call
sites) ... I've said I'll take responsibility for that and fix it.

I'm arguing that a too strict an interpretation of bugfix only post -rc1
will damage feature stabilisation.  Please think carefully about this.
If we go out in a released kernel with a problematic user space ABI, we
end up being committed to it forever.

James



  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-07 14:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-04 17:31 [GIT PATCH] scsi bug fixes for 2.6.23-rc2 James Bottomley
2007-08-07  0:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-07  3:55   ` James Bottomley
2007-08-07  4:01     ` Linus Torvalds
2007-08-07 13:12       ` James Smart
2007-08-07 16:13         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-07 14:31       ` James Bottomley [this message]
2007-08-07 16:20         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-07 16:31           ` James Bottomley
2007-08-07  7:14     ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-07 13:58       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2007-08-07 14:21         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-07 17:47           ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-07 14:25       ` James Bottomley
2007-08-07 14:55         ` Alan Cox
2007-08-07 14:56           ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-07 15:11         ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-07 15:38           ` James Bottomley
2007-08-07 15:43             ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-07 17:51             ` Andrew Morton
2007-08-13 12:42               ` Jens Axboe
2007-08-13 15:58                 ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-13 18:02                   ` Jens Axboe
2007-08-13 18:07                     ` Jens Axboe
2007-08-07 15:24       ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-07 14:53     ` Rene Herman
2007-08-07 16:06     ` Jeff Garzik
2007-08-07 16:27       ` James Smart
2007-08-07 16:34         ` Jeff Garzik

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