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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>, Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@vrfy.org>,
	Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	SCSI development list <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: BUG in: Driver core: convert block from raw kobjects to core devices (fwd)
Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2007 11:11:55 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1193847115.3411.31.camel@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.0710311153520.4704-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 11:58 -0400, Alan Stern wrote:
> On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, James Bottomley wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 2007-10-31 at 07:32 -0700, Greg KH wrote:
> > > Hm, I seem to have missed the part in this thread where someone said
> > > that it was valid to have a parent reference a child device.  That's
> > > just wrong and needs to be fixed.  Is that in the scsi layer somewhere?
> > > The block layer?  It sure isn't in the driver core...
> > 
> > This is the piece I'm still not clear on.  It's something to do with the
> > gendisk.  I'd have to look in block, but I believe the queue takes a ref
> > to the gendisk.
> > 
> > The scsi_device has a ref to the queue and the scsi_disk (in sd) has a
> > ref to both the scsi_device and the gendisk.  That means, until sd is
> > unbound and the scsi_disk released, there's an implied unbreakable
> > reference chain.
> > 
> > at least, I think that's what the problem is.
> 
> No, you haven't got it right.
> 
> 	Parent		Child		Grandchild
> 	------		-----		----------
> 	scsi_device	gendisk		request_queue

This is what I think doesn't happen.  The scsi_device should never be
parented to the gendisk.

> 
> The odd part is that the scsi_device holds a reference to the queue.  
> That creates a reference loop:
> 
> 	scsi_device	holds ref to	request_queue (done explicitly)
> 	request_queue	holds ref to	gendisk (implicit, parent-child)

agreed.

> 	gendisk		holds ref to	scsi_device (implicit, parent-child)

Where exactly does this last part happen? the scsi_device is a mid layer
object; the mid-layer doesn't know about gendisks.

James



  reply	other threads:[~2007-10-31 16:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-29 15:18 BUG in: Driver core: convert block from raw kobjects to core devices (fwd) Alan Stern
2007-10-29 15:35 ` James Bottomley
2007-10-29 16:38   ` Alan Stern
2007-10-29 16:45     ` James Bottomley
2007-10-29 17:04       ` Alan Stern
2007-10-29 18:47   ` Alan Stern
2007-10-29 19:13     ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-31  4:25       ` Greg KH
2007-10-31 10:46         ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-31 14:32           ` Greg KH
2007-10-31 15:15             ` James Bottomley
2007-10-31 15:40               ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-31 15:47                 ` James Bottomley
2007-10-31 16:04                   ` Alan Stern
2007-10-31 16:13                     ` James Bottomley
2007-10-31 16:24                       ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-31 16:31                         ` James Bottomley
2007-10-31 16:42                           ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-31 16:46                             ` James Bottomley
2007-10-31 17:32                               ` Kay Sievers
2007-10-31 18:36                               ` Alan Stern
2007-10-31 16:44                           ` Alan Stern
2007-10-31 17:07                             ` James Bottomley
2007-10-31 18:38                               ` Alan Stern
2007-10-31 15:58               ` Alan Stern
2007-10-31 16:11                 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2007-10-31  4:24     ` Greg KH
2007-10-31 15:51       ` Alan Stern

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