From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@suse.de>
To: Bart Van Assche <bvanassche@acm.org>
Cc: Vladislav Bolkhovitin <vst@vlnb.net>,
Dirk Meister <dmeister@uni-paderborn.de>,
linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, Chetan Loke <chetanloke@gmail.com>,
Chetan Loke <generationgnu@yahoo.com>,
scst-devel <scst-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010...
Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2010 15:29:13 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1282508953.3042.102.camel@mulgrave.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikcReFsYMhs1RkCHoRkL1+Q9WuptHj1xbx49YsA@mail.gmail.com>
On Sun, 2010-08-22 at 09:39 +0200, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:43 PM, James Bottomley
> <James.Bottomley@suse.de> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2010-08-21 at 22:42 +0400, Vladislav Bolkhovitin wrote:
> >> [ ... ]
> >>
> >> You forgot to mention one small thing. You are going to (re)use current
> >> STGT interface for user space backend, which in 5 years of being
> >> mainline has not gained any noticeable interest, because it is
> >> fundamentally slow.
> >
> > That's not exactly what the results of a speed comparison one of your
> > people did said, now is it? The results were actually not much
> > difference on line speeds up to GigE.
> >
> > [ ... ]
>
> I assume that you are referring to this message:
> http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/29/387 ? You might have missed the reply
> that was posted by Roland Dreier, a highly regarded kernel maintainer
> and InfiniBand expert (http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/1/29/402):
>
> "Maybe I'm all wet, but I think iSER vs. SRP should be roughly
> comparable. The exact formatting of various messages etc. is
> different but the data path using RDMA is pretty much identical. So
> the big difference between STGT iSER and SCST SRP hints at some big
> difference in the efficiency of the two implementations."
So the phrase "up to GigE" was deliberately in the above to exclude the
disputed infiniband results. I'm not really interested in re-opening
the arguments over how to interpret those results. The fact that SCST
and STGT were on par up to 1GbE is enough to refute the contention that
STGT is "fundamentally slow".
James
> Furthermore, I would like to clarify that Vlad hasn't asked me to
> start working on the SCST project but that I selected the SCST project
> myself after an extensive stability and performance comparison of four
> existing open source storage target projects.
>
> Bart.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-22 20:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 95+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-18 14:58 [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010 Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 15:11 ` James Bottomley
[not found] ` <AANLkTimJGxn=5kEMH68XVWqFcYG3vpfLjLjZpFGqhG_4@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-18 15:30 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-18 16:04 ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 16:18 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-18 17:50 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-19 1:18 ` jack wang
2010-08-19 21:20 ` Dirk Meister
2010-08-19 22:29 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-21 18:42 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-21 20:25 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-24 18:08 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-21 20:43 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-22 7:39 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-22 20:29 ` James Bottomley [this message]
2010-08-23 13:47 ` Joe Landman
2010-08-23 15:12 ` Bart Van Assche
[not found] ` <AANLkTim-M6dfLvJQnbieFqZCGG33E+-i+u_soCq2p9f1@mail.gmail.com>
2010-08-23 16:07 ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-23 18:03 ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-24 7:25 ` Pasi Kärkkäinen
2010-08-24 14:43 ` Linux I/O subsystem performance (was: linuxcon 2010...) Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 14:55 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-08-24 17:51 ` Linux I/O subsystem performance Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 20:40 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-08-24 14:55 ` [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010 Chetan Loke
[not found] ` <4C7404C4.4040704@vlnb.net>
2010-08-24 20:31 ` Linux I/O subsystem performance (was: linuxcon 2010...) Chris Worley
2010-08-25 19:12 ` Linux I/O subsystem performance Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-16 15:05 ` Linux I/O subsystem performance (was: linuxcon 2010...) Chris Worley
2010-08-23 19:41 ` [Scst-devel] Fwd: Re: linuxcon 2010 Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 14:41 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 14:51 ` Chris Weiss
2010-08-24 14:56 ` Matthew Wilcox
2010-08-25 22:20 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2010-08-25 22:45 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-08-24 14:57 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-24 19:48 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-24 21:23 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-26 20:11 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-26 21:23 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-28 17:32 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-28 20:47 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-08-30 20:47 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-30 21:46 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-02 19:38 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-02 20:25 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-05 20:18 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-05 21:50 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-05 23:13 ` Mark Deneen
2010-09-06 0:12 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06 0:58 ` Mark Deneen
2010-09-06 1:34 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06 5:04 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-05 23:41 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-05 23:59 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06 4:56 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-06 10:39 ` James Bottomley
2010-09-06 11:02 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-06 11:27 ` James Bottomley
2010-09-06 15:26 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-06 21:47 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-06 21:55 ` Nicholas A. Bellinger
2010-09-06 22:14 ` david
2010-09-07 0:44 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-07 3:45 ` Chetan Loke
2010-09-07 6:15 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-07 6:08 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-07 6:26 ` Dmitry Torokhov
2010-09-07 6:29 ` Hannes Reinecke
2010-09-07 6:45 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-09-07 13:20 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-07 20:14 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-07 20:14 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-09-06 21:16 ` Greg KH
2010-09-06 17:28 ` Chetan Loke
2010-09-06 21:52 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-20 13:46 ` Ruben Laban
2010-08-18 17:51 ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 16:19 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-18 16:28 ` Joe Landman
2010-08-18 17:52 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-18 15:12 ` Chetan Loke
2010-08-18 17:52 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-08-20 17:40 Ari Lemmke
2010-08-16 16:20 Fwd: Re: [Scst-devel] " Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-17 20:30 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-18 17:52 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-18 20:43 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-21 18:51 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-21 20:38 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-22 22:10 ` [Scst-devel] Fwd: " Gennadiy Nerubayev
2010-08-23 16:59 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 17:44 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-23 17:58 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 20:11 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-23 20:21 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-23 19:40 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-23 20:38 ` James Bottomley
2010-08-24 10:32 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-08-24 13:01 ` Chris Weiss
2010-08-24 19:53 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
2010-08-23 19:40 ` Vladislav Bolkhovitin
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