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From: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>
To: Boaz Harrosh <boaz@plexistor.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	"Dale R. Worley" <worley@alum.mit.edu>,
	linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org, linux-usb@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Large disk drives
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2014 16:54:18 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1415289258.10617.4.camel@jarvis.quadriga.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <545B86AC.3080704@plexistor.com>

On Thu, 2014-11-06 at 16:33 +0200, Boaz Harrosh wrote:
> On 11/06/2014 12:30 PM, James Bottomley wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-11-05 at 11:30 -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> >> On Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 11:34:11AM -0500, Alan Stern wrote:
> >>>> Sorry, meant to.  In principle I'm OK with this as the lever for the
> >>>> hack (largely because it means we don't need to do anything) but will
> >>>> the distributions support it?
> >>>
> >>> While I can't speak for the distributions, it's reasonable to assume 
> >>> that if something becomes part of the upstream kernel then they will 
> >>> include it.
> >>
> >> Btw, we do have precedence for looking at partition tables from SCSI
> >> code with scsi_partsize(), so the layering violation of looking at
> >> EFI labels for disks sizes wouldn't be something entirely new even
> >> if we did it in kernel space.
> > 
> > We really don't want to make the decision within the kernel of whether
> > we believe the partition size or the disk capacity.   For these disk
> > problems we need it to be the former, but if we choose that always,
> > we'll get weird results on mispartitioned devices.
> > 
> > The usual rule is no policy in the kernel and which to choose is policy,
> > so just export the knob (as Alan's patch does) and then let userspace
> > decide.
> > 
> 
> I do not think it is a matter of policy.
> 
> From what I understand the situation is that read_capacity_10() which is
> 32bit, Max 2T byte disks. fails with 0xffffffff and read_capacity_16() (64bit)
> is not supported because of wrong scsi-version or because it is blacklisted.
> (or device returns not-supported)

Actually, no, RC(10) returns the lowest 32 bits of the actual result.
Which is out of spec, but hey, this is a USB bridge ...

> Now If sd_read_capacity() succeed then off-course we choose it.

Um, the problem is we can't tell ... sd_read_capacity() returns a
number, it just may be wrong by a factor of 2TB.

>  What I'm saying
> is if read-capacity fails, then should we attempt a new read_capacity_part()?

We can't tell we have a failure.  We can tell if the partition capacity
and the read capacity differ that one of them must be wrong ...

> And sure a user-mode knob if he wants to make policy, like you said, is fine
> by me.
> 
> But just the simple case of read-capacity failure should we then?

We don't have a failure.  This is the problem.  Determining that a
problem exists 

James



  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-11-06 15:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-11-03 21:06 Large disk drives Dale R. Worley
2014-11-04  7:52 ` James Bottomley
     [not found]   ` <1415087562.2351.3.camel-7O4RPy5TklLPRNG96csxHf8+0UxHXcjY@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-04 16:14     ` Alan Stern
     [not found]       ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1411041112010.966-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-05 15:51         ` Dale R. Worley
2014-11-05 16:07       ` James Bottomley
2014-11-05 16:34         ` Alan Stern
     [not found]           ` <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1411051130470.1531-100000-IYeN2dnnYyZXsRXLowluHWD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-05 18:53             ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-11-05 19:30           ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20141105193045.GA13265-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-06 10:30               ` James Bottomley
2014-11-06 14:33                 ` Boaz Harrosh
     [not found]                   ` <545B86AC.3080704-/8YdC2HfS5554TAoqtyWWQ@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-06 15:53                     ` Alan Stern
2014-11-06 16:43                       ` Boaz Harrosh
     [not found]                         ` <545BA52F.6050205-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-06 17:08                           ` David Laight
2014-11-06 17:18                             ` James Bottomley
2014-11-06 15:54                   ` James Bottomley [this message]
2014-11-06 16:34                     ` Boaz Harrosh
2014-11-06 16:59                       ` Alan Stern
2014-11-06 19:23                 ` Dale R. Worley
2014-11-06 20:16                   ` Alan Stern
2014-11-05 19:15         ` Theodore Ts'o
     [not found]           ` <20141105191505.GF27083-AKGzg7BKzIDYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-06 19:17             ` Dale R. Worley
2014-11-05 23:30       ` Dale R. Worley
2014-11-06 17:47         ` Alan Stern
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2014-11-07  4:53 Norman Diamond
     [not found] ` <533357.25557.qm-303aDswoEIZ5hgrKqgaBcEyFvBl6snHEEwWAM/ix52Y@public.gmane.org>
2014-11-07 10:03   ` David Laight
2014-11-08  0:35     ` Norman Diamond

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