From: Bart Van Assche <Bart.VanAssche@wdc.com>
To: "michalx.potomski@intel.com" <michalx.potomski@intel.com>,
"linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org" <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "jejb@linux.vnet.ibm.com" <jejb@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
"subhashj@codeaurora.org" <subhashj@codeaurora.org>,
"szymonx.mielczarek@intel.com" <szymonx.mielczarek@intel.com>,
"martin.petersen@oracle.com" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
"vinholikatti@gmail.com" <vinholikatti@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] scsi: ufs: Implement Auto-Hibern8 setup
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 15:07:46 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1501168063.2516.6.camel@wdc.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <C8BF859FC3044844854B2CBA1ED115C1F99C98@HASMSX111.ger.corp.intel.com>
Hello Michal,
Please configure your e-mail client such that it inserts a "On $(date) $(author)
wrote:" line in replies. As one can see below that line is missing from your
replies.
On Thu, 2017-07-27 at 09:15 +0000, Potomski, MichalX wrote:
> > On Tue, 2017-07-25 at 16:54 +0000, Potomski, MichalX wrote:
> > > On Tue, 2017-07-25 at 15:30 +0000, Bart Van Assche wrote:
> > > > Since I'm not familiar with the Auto-Hibern8 feature: what impact
> > > > does it have on command processing? Does it e.g. cause SCSI or TMF
> > > > commands that are sent to the UFS device to be ignored, to fail or
> > > > to time out?
> > >
> > > Actually behavior should be transparent for all of the higher layers,
> > > since this shall be fully controlled by UFS Host, which will put UFS
> > > Device to Hibern8 state, when it has no ongoing commands to it for set
> > > up time. If there will be any command UFS Host should order the Device to exit
> >
> > Hibern8 mode and proceed normally.
> > >
> > > Bottom line is that in model case, it shouldn't cause any of errors mentioned
> >
> > by you.
> > > There is possible throughput degradation in case, if transfers are
> > > sporadic in terms of timer, which we did set up, though. According to
> > > specification it also shouldn't affect
> > > Hibern8 states triggered by Power Management, nor any other functionality.
> >
> > Hello Michal,
> >
> > SCSI requests can not only be initiated by user space but also by the kernel itself.
> > Are SCSI UFS devices controlled by the SCSI disk (sd) driver? Will SCSI requests
> > submitted by sd_check_events() to a hibernated UFS device time out and
> > activate the SCSI error handler?
>
> Hello Bart,
>
> Technically according to JESD220B UFS 2.0 spec, available on jedec.com website,
> this feature should work autonomously. It means, that when Device will be
> put in Hibern8 state by the host in Auto-Hibern8 procedure, actions other than
> reading DME Hibern8 status will cause Host to pull the Device out of Hibern8 state
> and proceed normally. Since all requests to the Device go through Host, then
> in theory it shouldn't interfere with any request made by anyone. Obviously it
> fully depends on the UFS Host and how it implements this feature. It all bases on
> trust, that if anyone flagged such capability in Host, did his job well and implemented
> feature correctly.
>
> Just to answer your questions in short manner:
> - Yes, it is controlled by SCSI disk driver.
> - No, if implemented correctly in Host it shouldn't time out any requests. For other
> cases we can have quirks, to disable such feature for Hosts that do not support this
> correctly (despite of being flagged with capability to do so).
If the polling that is performed by the sd driver is not stopped when a UFS
device is hibernated then that polling (sd_check_events()) will wake up a UFS
drive from the hibernated state. Shouldn't sd/sr polling be suspended while a
UFS device is in the hibernated state?
Thanks,
Bart.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-07-27 15:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-07-25 9:45 [PATCH v2] scsi: ufs: Implement Auto-Hibern8 setup Michal Potomski
2017-07-25 15:30 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-07-25 16:54 ` Potomski, MichalX
2017-07-26 15:25 ` Bart Van Assche
2017-07-27 9:15 ` Potomski, MichalX
2017-07-27 15:07 ` Bart Van Assche [this message]
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