From: Ihno Krumreich <ihno@suse.de>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@transmeta.com>
Cc: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>,
Martin Schwenke <martin@meltin.net>,
Kurt Garloff <garloff@suse.de>,
Linux kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Linux SCSI list <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
Patrick Mochel <mochel@osdl.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2002 18:03:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020626180350.A29197@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206201046340.8225-100000@home.transmeta.com>
On Thu, Jun 20, 2002 at 11:11:45AM -0700, Linus Torvalds wrote:
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Andries Brouwer wrote:
> >
> > At present this does not look very useful, but it may have future.
>
> Nobody is actually using it yet, so there hasn't been much feedback (and,
> for the same reason, not much reason for driver writers to care -
> everything that shows up there now ends up being pretty much built by the
> bus that contains the devices rather than any device-specific information
> itself).
>
> > But there is a pressing present problem. What name do my devices have?
> > I plug in a SmartMedia card reader. It will become some SCSI device.
>
> That's a user-space issue, the kernel is not going to make any policy.
> We've seen where policy takes us with devfs.
>
Hello,
by following the discussion I still miss a naming sceme for
devices like disks, tapes, cdrom for the user (no kernelhackers, but the
daily user running the system for some productive work). Does there exist
a naming sceme for persistant names for those devices? I think of something
like scsidev (http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/scsidev/#scsidev).
I think the scsidev idea could be extended to a general sceme that
satisfies all technologies (not only ide and scsi).
I think of something like
/dev/<device-type>/<technologie>_<Uniq-Number>_<Bus-number>_<Target>_<Lun>_<Device_type_specific>
<device-type> would be disks, tapes, cd-rom and other devices (scanner?)
<technologie> is something really readable for the user (ide, scsi, dasd (dasd are
disks on the IBM zSeries)
<Uniq-number> something to make a device uniq. examples for this could be:
- PC the I/O-port used by the controller
- DASD the device-port where the dasd is assigned
<bus-Number>
<Target>
<Lun> As intented by SCSI. On technologies where they make no sense
just leave them 0 (for example dasd don`t have that).
<device_type_specific> depends on the device type.
for disks this is the partition-number
for tapes rewind, norewind, compression, density
examples:
disks:
/dev/disks/ide_01f0_0_0_0_0 for the whole IDE disk
/dev/disks/ide_01f0_0_0_0_1 for partition 1
.
.
/dev/disks/ide_01f0_0_0_0_31 for partition 31
/dev/disks/scsi_0330_0_1_0_0 for the controller at port 0x330, disk bus 0 target 1, lun 0
/dev/disks/scsi_0330_0_1_0_1 for partition 1
.
.
/dev/disks/scsi_0330_0_1_0_15 for partition 15
/dev/disks/dasd_0150_0_0_0_0 for dasd at device-port 0x150, whole disk
/dev/disks/dasd_0150_0_0_0_1 for partition 1
.
.
/dev/disks/dasd_0150_0_0_0_3 for partition 3
tapes:
/dev/tapes/scsi_0330_0_2_0_r auto-rewind SCSI-Tape at controller at Port 0x330
/dev/tapes/scsi_0330_0_2_0_n no-rewind SCSI-Tape at controller at Port 0x330
Beside some standard devices, the devices could be created
- at system start for coldplugged devices
- by /sbin/hotplug for hotpluged devices
This naming sceme could be used for kernel 2.4 by creating nodes and for
kernel 2.5 by making symbolic links to /devices.
something forgotten?
Ihno
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Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <200206200711.RAA10165@thucydides.inspired.net.au>
2002-06-20 15:13 ` [PATCH] /proc/scsi/map Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 15:36 ` Dave Jones
2002-06-20 17:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 16:55 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-06-20 19:18 ` Patrick Mochel
[not found] ` <20020620165553.GA16897@win.tue.nl>
2002-06-20 17:52 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-06-20 18:36 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 18:52 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-20 19:15 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 16:28 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-06-21 0:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 16:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-06-20 20:06 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-22 18:27 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-20 18:11 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 22:59 ` Martin Schwenke
2002-06-20 23:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-22 18:25 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-26 16:03 ` Ihno Krumreich [this message]
2002-06-20 19:55 ` Greg KH
2002-06-21 6:28 ` Mike Touloumtzis
2002-06-22 17:24 David Brownell
2002-06-22 17:48 ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-22 20:11 ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-06-22 20:57 ` Roman Zippel
2002-06-22 18:18 ` Nick Bellinger
2002-06-24 1:50 ` David Brownell
2002-06-25 16:46 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 16:33 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 17:49 ` David Brownell
2002-06-26 23:39 ` Nick Bellinger
2002-07-03 0:59 ` Pavel Machek
[not found] <20020621092943.D1243@austin.ibm.com>
2002-06-21 16:17 ` Patrick Mochel
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2002-06-20 23:59 Grover, Andrew
[not found] <20020620112543.GD26376@gum01m.etpnet.phys.tue.nl>
2002-06-20 15:34 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 16:30 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 16:58 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-20 18:27 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 20:55 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 21:04 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 21:36 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-20 20:12 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-20 22:29 ` Martin Dalecki
2002-06-22 18:42 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-21 21:33 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-22 4:38 ` Nick Bellinger
2002-06-22 19:41 ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-06-22 19:11 ` Nick Bellinger
2002-06-25 18:13 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 16:05 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-06-25 16:57 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-06-25 18:58 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-07-03 1:01 ` Pavel Machek
2002-06-20 18:32 ` Kurt Garloff
2002-06-20 18:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-21 9:07 ` Kurt Garloff
2002-06-20 0:44 Kurt Garloff
2002-06-20 5:03 ` Linus Torvalds
2002-06-20 7:09 ` Martin Schwenke
2002-06-20 11:25 ` Kurt Garloff
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