From: Rogier Wolff <R.E.Wolff@BitWizard.nl>
To: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc: Andries Brouwer <aebr@win.tue.nl>,
James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@steeleye.com>,
"Justin T. Gibbs" <gibbs@scsiguy.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: aic7xxx sets CDR offline, how to reset?
Date: Wed, 4 Sep 2002 18:25:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020904182505.B20614@bitwizard.nl> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1031138593.2788.40.camel@irongate.swansea.linux.org.uk>
On Wed, Sep 04, 2002 at 12:23:13PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
> On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 11:37, Andries Brouwer wrote:
> > The scsi error recovery has many bad properties, but one is its slowness.
> > Once it gets triggered on a machine with SCSI disks it is common to
> > have a dead system for several minutes. I have not yet met a situation
> > in which rebooting was not preferable above scsi error recovery,
> > especially since the attempt to recover often fails.
>
> Well I for one prefer the scsi timeout/abort sequence on a CD getting
> confused badly by a bad block (as at least some of my drives do) to a
> reboot everytime I get bad media
Reboot is bad. Retries are bad.
Errors should be returned to an upper layer, with an error code: "may
retry", or "will never work". (Like in SMTP)
I will most likely set the "retry count" to 0: Never retry. Almost
never works anyway. And the disk already retried manytimes, so
retrying in software is only "taking time".
We do datarecovery around here. We get bad disks on a dayly basis. We
are currently reading a drive that gets over 10Mb per second while
spitting out bad block reports!
Thing is: those blocks that didn't work first time, may work on our
second retry. However, we need userspace control over that retry. We
prefer to get the 18G worth of data off the disk first, and only then
retry the blocks that happened to be bad first time around.
Roger.
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2002-09-03 14:35 aic7xxx sets CDR offline, how to reset? James Bottomley
2002-09-03 18:23 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 19:09 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 20:59 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-03 21:32 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 21:54 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-03 22:50 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 23:28 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 7:40 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-04 16:24 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-04 17:13 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-05 9:50 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-04 16:13 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-04 16:50 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-05 9:39 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-05 13:35 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-05 23:56 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-06 0:13 ` Justin T. Gibbs
2002-09-06 0:32 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-03 21:13 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 21:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 22:42 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 22:52 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-03 23:29 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 21:16 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-04 10:37 ` Andries Brouwer
2002-09-04 10:48 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-04 11:23 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-04 16:25 ` Rogier Wolff [this message]
2002-09-04 19:34 ` Thunder from the hill
2002-09-03 21:24 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-03 22:02 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-03 23:26 ` Alan Cox
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-11-21 15:16 [PATCH] turn scsi_allocate_device into readable code Christoph Hellwig
2002-11-21 15:36 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 15:39 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-21 15:49 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-21 16:12 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-21 17:08 ` [PATCH] current scsi-misc-2.5 include files Patrick Mansfield
[not found] <dledford@redhat.com>
2002-10-02 0:28 ` PATCH: scsi device queue depth adjustability patch Doug Ledford
2002-10-02 1:16 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-02 1:41 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-02 13:44 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-02 21:41 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-02 22:18 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-02 23:19 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-03 12:46 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-03 16:35 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-04 1:40 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-10-03 14:25 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-03 16:41 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-03 17:00 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-16 21:35 ` scsi_scan.c question Doug Ledford
2002-10-16 21:41 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-17 0:18 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-16 21:57 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-18 15:57 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-18 0:27 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-11-18 0:36 ` aic7xxx_biosparam J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-18 2:46 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-11-18 3:20 ` aic7xxx_biosparam J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-18 3:26 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-11-18 0:43 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Andries Brouwer
2002-11-18 2:47 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-11-18 0:57 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Alan Cox
2002-11-18 2:34 ` aic7xxx_biosparam Doug Ledford
2002-12-21 1:22 ` scsi_scan changes Doug Ledford
2002-12-21 1:27 ` James Bottomley
2002-11-16 19:40 [PATCH] removel useless mod use count manipulation Christoph Hellwig
2002-11-17 2:59 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-17 17:31 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-17 18:14 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-17 12:40 ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-11-17 12:48 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-11-17 13:38 ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-11-15 20:34 [RFC][PATCH] move dma_mask into struct device J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-16 0:19 ` Mike Anderson
2002-11-16 14:48 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-16 20:33 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-17 15:07 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 22:18 [PATCH] add request prep functions to SCSI J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 23:16 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-06 23:43 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-07 21:45 ` Mike Anderson
2002-11-06 4:24 [PATCH] fix 2.5 scsi queue depth setting Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 4:35 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 17:15 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 17:47 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 18:24 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 18:32 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 18:39 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 18:50 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 19:50 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-11-06 20:45 ` Doug Ledford
2002-11-06 21:19 ` J.E.J. Bottomley
2002-11-06 20:50 ` Doug Ledford
[not found] <patmans@us.ibm.com>
2002-10-15 16:55 ` [RFC PATCH] consolidate SCSI-2 command lun setting Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-15 20:29 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-15 22:00 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-30 16:58 ` [PATCH] 2.5 current bk fix setting scsi queue depths Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-30 17:17 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-30 18:05 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-31 0:44 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-21 19:34 [PATCH] get rid of ->finish method for highlevel drivers Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-21 23:58 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-22 15:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-22 18:43 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-22 23:17 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-22 23:30 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-23 14:16 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-23 15:13 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-24 1:36 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-24 23:20 ` Willem Riede
2002-10-24 23:36 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-25 0:02 ` Willem Riede
2002-10-22 7:30 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-22 11:14 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-10-15 18:55 [patch 2.5] ips queue depths Jeffery, David
2002-10-15 19:30 ` Dave Hansen
2002-10-15 19:47 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 20:04 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-15 20:52 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 23:30 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-15 23:56 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-16 2:32 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-16 19:04 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-16 20:15 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-17 0:39 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-17 17:01 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-17 21:13 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-15 20:10 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-15 20:24 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 20:38 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-15 22:10 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-16 1:04 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-15 20:24 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-15 22:46 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-15 20:26 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-15 21:27 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-16 0:43 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-10-21 7:28 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-21 16:16 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-21 16:29 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-10 15:01 [PATCH] scsi host cleanup 3/3 (driver changes) Stephen Cameron
2002-10-10 16:46 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-10 16:59 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-10 20:05 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-30 21:06 [PATCH] first cut at fixing unable to requeue with no outstanding commands James Bottomley
2002-09-30 23:28 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-01 0:38 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-01 15:01 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-10-01 15:14 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-01 16:23 ` Mike Anderson
2002-10-01 16:30 ` James Bottomley
2002-10-01 20:18 ` Inhibit auto-attach of scsi disks ? Scott Merritt
2002-10-02 0:46 ` Alan Cox
2002-10-02 1:49 ` Scott Merritt
2002-10-02 1:58 ` Doug Ledford
2002-10-02 2:45 ` Scott Merritt
2002-10-02 13:40 ` Alan Cox
2002-09-24 11:35 SCSI woes (followup) Russell King
2002-09-24 13:46 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-24 13:58 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 14:29 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-24 18:16 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-24 18:18 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-24 19:01 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 19:08 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 19:21 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 19:32 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-24 20:00 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 22:23 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-24 23:04 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 22:39 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 23:14 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-24 23:26 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 23:31 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-24 23:56 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 23:33 ` Russell King
2002-09-25 0:47 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-25 8:45 ` Russell King
2002-09-25 2:18 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-25 14:41 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 23:33 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 23:45 ` Russell King
2002-09-25 0:08 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-25 8:41 ` Russell King
2002-09-25 17:22 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-25 12:46 ` Russell King
2002-09-24 17:57 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-09-24 18:39 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-24 18:49 ` Luben Tuikov
[not found] <200209091458.g89Evv806056@localhost.localdomain>
2002-09-09 16:56 ` [RFC] Multi-path IO in 2.5/2.6 ? Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-09 17:34 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-09 18:40 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-10 13:02 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-10 16:03 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 16:27 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-10 0:08 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 7:55 ` Jeremy Higdon
2002-09-10 13:04 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-10 16:20 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 13:16 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-10 19:26 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-11 14:20 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-11 19:17 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-11 19:37 ` James Bottomley
2002-09-11 19:52 ` Lars Marowsky-Bree
2002-09-11 21:38 ` Oliver Xymoron
2002-09-11 20:30 ` Doug Ledford
2002-09-11 21:17 ` Mike Anderson
2002-09-10 17:21 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-10 18:42 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-09-10 19:00 ` Patrick Mochel
2002-09-10 19:37 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-08-26 16:29 [RFC]: 64 bit LUN/Tags, dummy device in host_queue, host_lock <-> LLDD reentrancy Aron Zeh
2002-08-26 16:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-26 17:27 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-26 19:00 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-26 20:57 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-26 21:10 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-26 22:38 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-26 22:56 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-08-26 23:10 ` Doug Ledford
2002-08-28 14:38 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-26 21:15 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-12 23:38 [PATCH] 2.5.31 scsi_error.c cleanup Mike Anderson
2002-08-22 14:05 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-22 16:34 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-22 17:11 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-22 20:10 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-05 23:53 When must the io_request_lock be held? Jamie Wellnitz
2002-08-06 17:58 ` Mukul Kotwani
2002-08-07 14:48 ` Doug Ledford
2002-08-07 15:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-07 16:18 ` Doug Ledford
2002-08-07 16:48 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-07 18:06 ` Mike Anderson
2002-08-07 23:17 ` James Bottomley
2002-08-08 19:28 ` Luben Tuikov
2002-08-07 16:55 ` Patrick Mansfield
[not found] <200206132126.g5DLQiQ24889@localhost.localdomain>
2002-06-13 21:50 ` Proposed changes to generic blk tag for use in SCSI (1/3) Doug Ledford
2002-06-13 22:09 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-11 2:46 James Bottomley
2002-06-11 5:50 ` Jens Axboe
2002-06-11 14:29 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-11 14:45 ` Jens Axboe
2002-06-11 16:39 ` James Bottomley
2002-06-13 21:01 ` Doug Ledford
2002-06-13 21:26 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-08 15:18 [RFC] Persistent naming of scsi devices sullivan
2002-04-08 15:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-04-08 15:59 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-04-08 16:34 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-08 18:27 ` Patrick Mansfield
2002-04-08 19:17 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-09 0:22 ` Douglas Gilbert
2002-04-09 14:35 ` sullivan
2002-04-09 14:55 ` sullivan
2002-04-08 17:51 ` Oliver Neukum
2002-04-08 18:01 ` Christoph Hellwig
2002-04-08 18:18 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-04-08 18:28 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-08 18:34 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-04-08 19:07 ` James Bottomley
2002-04-08 20:41 ` Matthew Jacob
2002-04-08 18:45 ` Tigran Aivazian
2002-04-08 20:18 ` Eddie Williams
2002-04-09 0:48 ` Kurt Garloff
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