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From: Matthew Dharm <mdharm-scsi@one-eyed-alien.net>
To: Oliver Neukum <oliver@neukum.name>,
	Luben Tuikov <luben@splentec.com>,
	Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>,
	Mike Anderson <andmike@us.ibm.com>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Linux SCSI list <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [linux-usb-devel] Re: [PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.58
Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 16:45:53 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030124164553.C27859@one-eyed-alien.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20030125000529.GE28812@redhat.com>; from dledford@redhat.com on Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 07:05:29PM -0500

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Ah... the sweet feeling of progress.

On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 07:05:29PM -0500, Doug Ledford wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 24, 2003 at 03:25:40PM -0800, Matthew Dharm wrote:
> > So, if I read this correctly, you're saying that the correct sequence is:
> > 
> > (1) get disconnect notification from USB
> > (2) Call scsi_set_device_offline() (must hold host lock for this)

> > (3) call scsi_done() for all command in queue (max: 1)
> 
> Hmmm...only 1?  USB limit or driver limit?

Driver limit.  I added support for queueing, but the queue is fixed at size
1.  It's an improvement for the future.

> > (4) Call scsi_remove_host(), which should now work because no commands are
> > outstanding
> 
> > (5) Call scsi_unregister()
> > 
> > And we're done, all structures can be freed.  And, as I understand it, the
> > following is true:
> > 
> > (b) once (3) is done, (4) is guaranteed to work
> 
> No!  Remember, command completion is delayed!  We have a tasklet that 
> processes your now complete command, and with that processing comes 
> marking the device unbusy, which is also required for 4 to work.  That's 
> why I was suggesting waking up the error handler thread and letting it 
> finish this process off.  The error handler thread has the luxury of being 
> able to wait for the command completion to happen, and in my opinion it's 
> a slightly better place to do the work of cleaning out the request queue.

Okay... so what do I do if it fails?  Sleep for a while and try again
later?  Wait on a flag somewhere?

> > Tho, this does leave me with a couple of questions:
> > 
> > (i) Doesn't scsi_set_device_offline() work on devices, not hosts?  How do I
> > map from my host to my device list?
> 
> Well, in hosts.c::scsi_remove_host() we do it thusly:
> 
>         list_for_each_entry(sdev, &shost->my_devices, siblings)
>                 if (scsi_check_device_busy(sdev))
>                         return 1;

Right, perfect example.

> > (iii) What should I shove into the status field of the scsi command before
> > I scsi_done() it?
> 
> Well, to force an error I always put DID_ERROR into the driver byte of 
> the result dword, aka:
> 
> cmd->result = DID_ERROR << 16;

Sounds reasonable.

> > Async is fine with me, but up until this e-mail,
> > all I've seen is people arguing over what the sequence is, and theoretical
> > issues of what users should and should not do.  And I also think that a
> > large number of hotplugable hosts are going to replicate a whole bunch of
> > code to do (2)+(3)+(4) in one, synchronous burst.
> 
> Which would be wrong BTW.  If you can support multiple devices behind a 
> bridge then you can't put (2)+(3)+(4) together in one burst.  That's why 
> they aren't that way now.

Hrm... I can see your point if we're talking about hotplugging an
individual device, but I don't see how (2)+(3)+(4) isn't what we want for
hotplugging an entire host.

Matt

-- 
Matthew Dharm                              Home: mdharm-usb@one-eyed-alien.net 
Maintainer, Linux USB Mass Storage Driver

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					-- Pitr to Dust Puppy
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  reply	other threads:[~2003-01-25  0:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <10426732153816@kroah.com>
     [not found] ` <10426732212871@kroah.com>
     [not found]   ` <20030116093112.B29001@one-eyed-alien.net>
     [not found]     ` <20030116173539.GA31235@kroah.com>
2003-01-16 19:43       ` [linux-usb-devel] Re: [PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.58 Matthew Dharm
2003-01-16 19:53         ` Greg KH
     [not found]         ` <20030116195306.GA32697@kroah.com>
2003-01-16 20:10           ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-16 20:43             ` greg kh
2003-01-16 21:41             ` Linus Torvalds
2003-01-16 22:51             ` Matthew Dharm
2003-01-16 20:40           ` David Brownell
2003-01-16 20:48             ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-16 23:43               ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-17  8:50                 ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-17 10:55                   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-17 15:06                     ` Alan Stern
2003-01-17 18:54                     ` Matthew Dharm
2003-01-17 20:25                       ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-17 22:07                         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-17 20:26                       ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2003-01-17 20:49                         ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-20 17:36                       ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-20 18:23                         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-20 18:56                           ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-20 19:10                             ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2003-01-20 19:50                             ` David Brownell
2003-01-21  3:31                           ` Alan
2003-01-21  7:17                             ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-21 11:57                               ` [linux-usb-devel] " Douglas Gilbert
2003-01-21 13:48                                 ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-21 18:22                                   ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-21 13:30                             ` James Bottomley
2003-01-20 20:08                         ` David Brownell
2003-01-20 20:48                           ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2003-01-20 21:24                             ` David Brownell
2003-01-20 21:51                               ` [linux-usb-devel] " Oliver Neukum
2003-01-20 22:26                                 ` David Brownell
2003-01-20 23:00                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-21  0:44                                     ` David Brownell
2003-01-21  0:50                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-21 18:16                                         ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-21 19:00                                           ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-21 20:02                                             ` [linux-usb-devel] " Luben Tuikov
2003-01-21 21:02                                               ` Alan Stern
2003-01-22 21:50                                                 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-22 22:46                                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-23 17:46                                                     ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-23 18:19                                                       ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-23 19:07                                                         ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-23 19:40                                                           ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-23 20:28                                                             ` Doug Ledford
2003-01-23 20:59                                                               ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-23 21:34                                                                 ` Doug Ledford
2003-01-23 22:39                                                                   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-23 23:23                                                                     ` Doug Ledford
2003-01-23 23:25                                                                     ` Matthew Dharm
2003-01-24 15:34                                                                       ` Alan Stern
2003-01-24 16:06                                                                         ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-24 17:58                                                                         ` [linux-usb-devel] " Doug Ledford
2003-01-24 19:00                                                                         ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-24 22:23                                                                           ` Oliver.Neukum
2003-01-24 19:10                                                                       ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-24 19:56                                                                         ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
2003-01-24 20:11                                                                           ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-24 21:09                                                                           ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-24 21:55                                                                             ` Alan Stern
2003-01-24 22:03                                                                               ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-24 23:21                                                                               ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-24 21:48                                                                       ` Doug Ledford
2003-01-24 22:59                                                                         ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-24 23:17                                                                           ` [linux-usb-devel] " Doug Ledford
2003-01-25  0:24                                                                           ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-25  1:35                                                                             ` Mike Anderson
2003-01-24 23:25                                                                         ` Matthew Dharm
2003-01-25  0:05                                                                           ` Doug Ledford
2003-01-25  0:45                                                                             ` Matthew Dharm [this message]
2003-01-25  1:07                                                                               ` Doug Ledford
2003-02-02 18:13                                                                                 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-02-02 20:06                                                                                   ` Matthew Dharm
2003-02-03 17:17                                                                                     ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-16 21:18                                                                                       ` Matthew Dharm
2003-02-17 19:37                                                                                         ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-17 19:51                                                                                           ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-02-23  7:48                                                                                           ` Matthew Dharm
2003-02-26 23:37                                                                                             ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-27  1:10                                                                                               ` Matthew Dharm
2003-02-27  6:37                                                                                                 ` Mike Anderson
2003-02-27 19:32                                                                                                   ` Matthew Dharm
2003-03-01  1:41                                                                                                     ` Matthew Dharm
2003-02-02  3:49                                                                             ` Matthew Dharm
2003-01-25  1:24                                                                           ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-24  0:15                                                               ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-01-24  8:33                                                               ` David Brownell
2003-01-23 20:41                                                         ` A different look at block device hotswap in the Linux kernel Steven Dake
2003-01-23 21:07                                                           ` Matthew Jacob
2003-01-23 21:06                                                             ` Steven Dake
2003-01-23 21:16                                                               ` Matthew Jacob
2003-01-24  0:07                                                           ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-24  0:21                                                             ` Matthew Jacob
2003-01-24  7:53                                                               ` David Brownell
2003-01-24 15:26                                                                 ` Matthew Jacob
2003-01-24  0:54                                                             ` Steven Dake
2003-01-24  2:35                                                               ` [linux-usb-devel] " Matthew Dharm
2003-01-22 21:30                                           ` [linux-usb-devel] Re: [PATCH] USB changes for 2.5.58 David Brownell
2003-01-20 22:16                           ` Luben Tuikov
2003-01-20 22:51                             ` David Brownell
2003-01-20 23:27                               ` Oliver Neukum
2003-01-22 12:07 Bennie J. Venter

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