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From: Matthew Dharm <mdharm-scsi@one-eyed-alien.net>
To: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com>
Cc: Andries.Brouwer@cwi.nl, greg@kroah.com,
	SCSI Mailing List <linux-scsi@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-usb-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [example PATCH - not for applying] exclude certain commands
Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 18:34:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030426183428.B8697@one-eyed-alien.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1051397024.4089.86.camel@mulgrave>; from James.Bottomley@SteelEye.com on Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 05:43:43PM -0500

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On Sat, Apr 26, 2003 at 05:43:43PM -0500, James Bottomley wrote:
> On Sat, 2003-04-26 at 17:13, Matthew Dharm wrote:
> > > Of course it is bad when variables have a function that differs
> > > from what is suggested by their name. So, sr_bufflen must be
> > > the length of the buffer and nothing else. If the length of
> > > the transfer is needed, there must be a field sr_xferlen or so.
> > 
> > Sounds good.  It also sounds very similar to what I proposed some time ago.
> > Here's a question from that discussion: How you you set sr_xferlen?  I'm
> > guessing that you want to add a parameters to scsi_wait_req()?  Or
> > will you simply remove the bufflen parameter and force callers to set both
> > fields in the struct scsi_request?
> > 
> > Either way, you'll be touching a great deal of code.  Which isn't
> > necessarily a bad thing, but it might raise a few eyebrows....
> 
> What's actually wrong with simply parsing the commands?  For all SCSI
> Spec commands there's a well known algorithm to get the transfer size
> from the command group.  For vendor specific commands, well the
> mid-layer doesn't issue them so you'd just have to rely on the user
> doing it to pass the correct buffer length (which is no different really
> from what happens today).

To parse correctly, I would need to remember what type of device it is by
snooping the INQUIRY data.  I would also have to keep around data such as
block size (for TYPE_DISK).  I haven't even looked at what extra data I
would need to keep around for all the other types.

Why should usb-storage do that when someone else (the command source)
already knows this data?  Whatever is sending the command already knows how
much data to expect -- my reparsing the command to try to figure it out is
guaranteed to be less precise than just using the correct answer from the
source of the command.

Also, user-issued commands can specify buffer size and transfer length
separately, but only one value gets given to the usb-storage driver.  The
other is dropped on the floor somewhere in the mid-layer.

In the end, I guess the short-answer to 'what is wrong with parsing' is
that we tried it for over a year, and it kept biting us on the ass with
weird corner-cases and strange devices.

Matt

-- 
Matthew Dharm                              Home: mdharm-usb@one-eyed-alien.net 
Maintainer, Linux USB Mass Storage Driver

We can customize our colonels.
					-- Tux
User Friendly, 12/1/1998

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  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-27  1:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-26 21:44 [example PATCH - not for applying] exclude certain commands Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-26 22:13 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-26 22:43   ` James Bottomley
2003-04-27  1:34     ` Matthew Dharm [this message]
2003-04-27  2:15       ` James Bottomley
2003-04-27  9:35         ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-27 15:41           ` James Bottomley
2003-04-27 18:52             ` Kai Makisara
2003-04-27 19:52             ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-28 19:05               ` Luben Tuikov
2003-04-28 19:12                 ` Luben Tuikov
2003-04-28 20:19                 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-28 21:33                   ` Luben Tuikov
2003-04-26 22:29 ` James Bottomley
2003-04-27  0:24   ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-04-27  1:39   ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-27 14:04     ` [linux-usb-devel] " Alan Stern
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-04-27  2:29 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-27  4:32 ` James Bottomley
2003-04-25  0:43 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-25  2:12 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-25 14:32 ` Alan Stern
2003-04-25 15:12   ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-26  0:58     ` Alan Stern
2003-04-26  8:24       ` Oliver Neukum
2003-04-26 15:22         ` Alan Stern
2003-04-24 18:59 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-24 19:14 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-24 20:20   ` James Bottomley
2003-04-24 20:59     ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-24 21:43       ` Patrick Mansfield
2003-04-24 15:21 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-24 15:56 ` Pete
2003-04-24 21:33 ` Stelian Pop
2003-04-24  9:46 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-24  9:56 ` Stelian Pop
2003-04-24 14:05 ` Alan Stern
2003-04-24 14:26   ` James Bottomley
2003-04-24 14:46     ` Alan Stern
2003-04-24 15:26       ` James Bottomley
2003-04-24  9:08 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-24 18:22 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-23 22:39 Andries.Brouwer
2003-04-24  0:10 ` Matthew Dharm
2003-04-24  8:05 ` André Cruz
2003-04-24  9:15 ` Stelian Pop
2003-04-24  9:22   ` Stelian Pop
2003-04-24 11:45 ` Mike Bursell
2003-04-24 12:44 ` James Bottomley

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